alekaras
The ITK of IDK
True. Winks and Carroll would probably have been a bit too lightweight.
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Tottenham vs Scum COC OMT
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Baleforce
Martin Peters
fair enough
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
I do understand where you are coming from but i disagree, I want us to field our strongest side in all cup competitions because I want to see us win a trophy and I amsick to death with this obsession of finishing among the losers ( top four).
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
I understand this viewpoint and it's one hold too 99% of the time. The only exceptions I make are when we play Arsenal or Chelsea. I just want to beat them.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
So do I, but if we lost both games in the Prem to the Arse but won a trophy at the end of the season I would be happy with that. We should have fielded a better side last night but not because it was the Arse specifically but because its a trophy we should have been looking at as one we could win.
This ..
And the big problem with last night is Poch's failure to understand that ...
Baleforce
Martin Peters
I want us to use our squad in the most efficient manner across the season, where we finish and what (if any) silverware we end up with will be by products of that.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Good point, but it seems to me that we are obsessed with finishing in the top four instead of winning trophys which is my point.
Serious question
- You really feel we needed to rotate our squad yesterday? for one game in September
- You feel playing Lloris would have had any impact on any later game in season?
Baleforce
Martin Peters
I feel you need to keep players interested and at some level of match fitness. It's not about giving Lloris a rest its about maintaining a level for Vorm in case we need to plug him in.
Players want to play and they can get disillusioned if they spend to long without a game, that dissilusion can infect the dressing room. It's a tricky balancing act.
Of course Lloris playing wouldn't effect him later in the season, I think you're micro analysing things too much - it's important for back ups/rotational players to get game time so when/if they are called upon they have some experience in the team to draw upon - Early UEFA/League Cup games are the ideal games to give them that experience
Agree with the concept, not with the timing decision, not that game.
And by your own statement, we would have been no worse off playing Lloris ...
milo
Jack L. Jones
That's where the money is, so that is the criteria managers are judged against.
You don't rotate players because they are tired, you rotate to prevent that.
And that money/CL qualification attracts better players, which makes us more likely to win stuff.
imcallingbullsh*t
Steven Caulker
Which i think is valid in the QF or SF, perhaps not in the 1st round. Not being difficult but which games would you have rested players in?
Qarabag = We hadnt won a game yet in the season
Stoke = We hadnt won a game in the league and would have dropped into bottom 3 had we not have won
Palace = Where is took everything we had to win and going in i didnt think we would
Arsenal = Carling Cup 1st round where they were also resting players
Man C = Top of the league team where we need a performance at top of our game to get near them
Exactly.
Never ceases to amaze me how many people moan about players being "rested"
"It's only 6 games into the season, how can he be tired?"
"Ridiculous that he needs resting, he's a 22 year old athlete, it's his job" etc.
Players are just as often removed from a match squad in order to avoid injury, suspensions etc
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
The City game.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
So do you think that making money is more important then trying to win something?
Exactly ..
- A good result against City is a draw
- Anyone really would trade a draw/1 point in September in the PL, over a cup game win over the Scum?