Daniel Levy - Chairman

[jimmyb]

Because it is clear he is asking for to much for him just like he did with bentley when it is clear he did not have a future with us. Everton said earlier in the summer they wanted Lennon but we were asking to much. I read the quotes. Now instead of taking a couple of million and getting him off the wages we will be stuck with him and let him go on a free.

Well, they would say that, wouldn't they? It's in their interests to get him as cheaply as possible.

He might not be wanted at Spurs any more but he's still only 28; a former England international; a player with great experience; who proved himself at Everton in the second half of last season, being one of the key players in their resurgence.

So all in all, and given the sky high prices of the English transfer market - where very ordinary players are going for up to £10m - it would be silly to let Lennon leave for "a couple of million".

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Well, they would say that, wouldn't they? It's in their interests to get him as cheaply as possible.

He might not be wanted at Spurs any more but he's still only 28; a former England international; a player with great experience; who proved himself at Everton in the second half of last season, being one of the key players in their resurgence.

So all in all, and given the sky high prices of the English transfer market - where very ordinary players are going for up to £10m - it would be silly to let Lennon leave for "a couple of million".

well i hope your right and we get 5m plus for him, I hope that is what will happen and not we let him leave for free next summer after paying him all season yet not playing him. If that happens then I will come on here and say it is one of Levy's better deals, if that happens.

 

[parklane1]

So Collymore states the fecking obvious by telling the whole world the Bale money was wasted, how about he tell us something we all on here that we do not already know. Now I have criticised Levy for not bringing the right attacking options this window, but maybe, just maybe, the reason why Levy has not not brought in those players is because he wants to make sure he gets the right players in this time.

And as for you guys who think Collymore is spot on, remember he also said we should us signed Schneiderlin. About that, Mr Collymore, we tried to sign him but he made it patiently obvious on a number of times he would only sign for a club in the Champions League, nothing Levy could do about that.

And for those of us (me included) that have slagged Levy off about those post Bale signings, funny how none of us were slagging him at the time about how he signed those players, Well hindsight is 20/20

Collymore is full of brick and the fact he works for Talkbrick should prove that, and as you say hindsight is marvellous and most of those who say they were against the signings at the time are kidding themselves.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I seem to recall quite a few posters being worried at the time that we signed not one but SEVEN players at the same time with no PL experience Naija.

That's not a Levy dig. I have asked for years that he let the manager/DoF get on with the transfer dealings for years and not to interfere so if anything it's a compliment.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

The same.

Levy is a decent chairman, he runs us quite well in some ways. I worry he is sticking by someone like lennon who if not going to be played should be sold. He will probably do the same with Lamela, the are times quite a few times when his actions cause us to lose money.

I hope that we have a plan and decide to stick with Poch for the long term, to do what is done in other sports where they do not look so closely at results but build over a 2-4 year cycle to turn us into a really good team.

Well if the rumours tonight to be believed he is off back to Italy

 

[parklane1]

I seem to recall quite a few posters being worried at the time that we signed not one but SEVEN players at the same time with no PL experience Naija.

That's not a Levy dig. I have asked for years that he let the manager/DoF get on with the transfer dealings for years and not to interfere so if anything it's a compliment.

It was stupid to sign 7 players at once and all from abroad ( imo), but I do not remember many (if any) fans saying we had bought brick players ( although a lot have come out of the woodwork since) as Naija said hindsight is a wonderful thing.

 

[Bullet]

It was stupid to sign 7 players at once and all from abroad ( imo), but I do not remember many (if any) fans saying we had bought **** players ( although a lot have come out of the woodwork since) as Naija said hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Indeed. I wanted Spurs to sign some internationals in their early 20s... Brazil internationals, Argies, Spain... flipping brilliant stuff! And for central defence how about the young captain of an Eastern European nation? How about the best talent from Ajax and a huge Belgian wing forward? How about a huge defensive rock that plays for France? So exciting... at the time...

 

[camspur]

I know what you mean with the post - History of league placements supports it - but can a few points behind over the whole season be classed as requiring a 'major blip' from other teams? We have been so close and it's so frustrating.

Let's see the last six seasons gave us final places of (going backwards) 5th, 6th, 5th, 4th, 5th and 4th, the two seasons we finished 4th we had Chelsea in 6th ( a major blip) and City in 5th (the start of the Arab-era) and apart from 1 season we've been 6 or more points away from the top 4, so yes i do think that unless one of the "top-4" have a blip we don't get in there and until we have the finances in place to compete that will still be the way our seasons go.

Am I happy about it, not overly but I know our place and far happier than I would be supporting Everton, Villa, Saudi Sportswashing Machine or another "big" club.

 

[Gazzasrightboot]

Let's see the last six seasons gave us final places of (going backwards) 5th, 6th, 5th, 4th, 5th and 4th, the two seasons we finished 4th we had Chel53a in 6th ( a major blip) and City in 5th (the start of the Arab-era) and apart from 1 season we've been 6 or more points away from the top 4, so yes i do think that unless one of the "top-4" have a blip we don't get in there and until we have the finances in place to compete that will still be the way our seasons go.

Am I happy about it, not overly but I know our place and far happier than I would be supporting Everton, Villa, Saudi Sportswashing Machine or another "big" club.

It is for that reason plus the new training centre and the new stadium that I think Levy has done a great job at Spurs. Compare that to where we were in the Sugar era and that is a complete transformation. He has not been perfect and has made mistakes but the general consensus from the anti-Levy phalanx seems to ignore all of that and think all he does is penny pinch and hold this club back. I can understand it to an extent as some of his actions (the manner with which Jol was ousted being one) were errors but to negate or not give any reference to said accomplishments is unfair. With the cards that he has been dealt, he is performing admirably. When he first came to this club, it was Man United as the dominant team, Arsenal, Liverpool with Leeds and Saudi Sportswashing Machine. Then Abramovich came, Leeds fell away spectacularly and Saudi Sportswashing Machine imploded. Then the Sheikh came just as we were getting ourselves to a top 4 position. Outside factors have worked against us and who would have foreseen that Shinawatra would sell out to the Sheikhs! Take out the outliers of Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project and I think you have a true reflection of how the club has been built to compete.

To say that he has taken the club as far as he can is also unfair. He has taken it as far as he can until the new stadium comes in, and then the potential of this club goes higher.

In the grand scheme of chairmen/owners outside of the top 4 he is right at the top in terms of ambition of breaking into the elite. No other club apart from Liverpool has plans such as ours and nor the consistency of performance and Liverpool are competing from a much stronger financial base.

As unromantic as it sounds, finance is what is going to have the biggest determining factor as to who finishes top 4. Look at any of the other leagues and the league table will reflect the finance league table with a few exceptions. It is more prevalent for us in our league as we have 4 huge clubs compared to the 2-3 that the other leagues have.

 

[stinkfoot]

Let's see the last six seasons gave us final places of (going backwards) 5th, 6th, 5th, 4th, 5th and 4th, the two seasons we finished 4th we had Chel53a in 6th ( a major blip) and City in 5th (the start of the Arab-era) and apart from 1 season we've been 6 or more points away from the top 4, so yes i do think that unless one of the "top-4" have a blip we don't get in there and until we have the finances in place to compete that will still be the way our seasons go.

Am I happy about it, not overly but I know our place and far happier than I would be supporting Everton, Villa, Saudi Sportswashing Machine or another "big" club.

The thing is though, lets say its an average of 9 points away from top 4.

EVERY SEASON we have debates on here about those teams we lose to that we should be beating, usually more than three of them over a season as well.

So, by that rationale, if Spurs manage to win those games (against teams not in the top 4), then we are in there - without relying on any blip from the other top 4 teams.

 

[Gazzasrightboot]

The thing is though, lets say its an average of 9 points away from top 4.

EVERY SEASON we have debates on here about those teams we lose to that we should be beating, usually more than three of them over a season as well.

So, by that rationale, if Spurs manage to win those games (against teams not in the top 4), then we are in there - without relying on any blip from the other top 4 teams.

There's not a team in the land that does not drop points against teams "they should be beating". That's why football is not that predictable! If it were, we'd all be rich from betting on results! By the same token, would you expect that we should lose against the teams that should be beating us?

 

[stinkfoot]

There's not a team in the land that does not drop points against teams "they should be beating". That's why football is not that predictable! If it were, we'd all be rich from betting on results! By the same token, would you expect that we should lose against the teams that should be beating us?

Well, if finances are the deciding factor here then that's only 4 or 5 teams isn't it?

 

[Gazzasrightboot]

Well, if finances are the deciding factor here then that's only 4 or 5 teams isn't it?

I think finances will mean that on average you will finish up to that position. That doesn't mean that you will beat all of the teams beneath you.

 

[milo]

There's not a team in the land that does not drop points against teams "they should be beating". That's why football is not that predictable! If it were, we'd all be rich from betting on results! By the same token, would you expect that we should lose against the teams that should be beating us?

Football is a low scoring game with a high number of goals coming from mistakes. It is almost made for upsets.

 

[Gazzasrightboot]

Football is a low scoring game with a high number of goals coming from mistakes. It is almost made for upsets.

Right so it's the team's ability to consistently beat "lower teams" i.e. by having the better players that will tend to finish higher up.

 

[milo]

Right so it's the team's ability to consistently beat "lower teams" i.e. by having the better players that will tend to finish higher up.

Absolutely but individual results are difficult to predict

 

[We are Tottenham]

if you compare Aguero's last 5 seasons in Spain to Soldado's last 5 years in Spain, Aguero scored 101 league & cup goals in 234 matches while Roberto Soldado scored 111 league & cup goals in 207 matches which ironically means Soldado had the better record.

66.000 dollar question then......why couldn't he hack it with us?

its a complete mystery to me..................

 

[Gazzasrightboot]

Absolutely but individual results are difficult to predict

Completely agree which was my original point. There will always be an upset and we won't be the last team to suffer from those.

 

[Bullet]

if you compare Aguero's last 5 seasons in Spain to Soldado's last 5 years in Spain, Aguero scored 101 league & cup goals in 234 matches while Roberto Soldado scored 111 league & cup goals in 207 matches which ironically means Soldado had the better record.

66.000 dollar question then......why couldn't he hack it with us?

its a complete mystery to me..................

I'm certainly not comparing myself to Aguero but I used to play 6-a-side indoors and get about 10 goals per hour, it was a very high scoring (low quality) game. In the summer we would play outside and I couldn't score for toffee. Same teams pretty much, same goal size... I just couldn't get going outdoors but indoors it was easy and I'd score almost every attempt. I have no idea why other than psychology.

 

[We are Tottenham]

I'm certainly not comparing myself to Aguero but I used to play 6-a-side indoors and get about 10 goals per hour, it was a very high scoring (low quality) game. In the summer we would play outside and I couldn't score for toffee. Same teams pretty much, same goal size... I just couldn't get going outdoors but indoors it was easy and I'd score almost every attempt. I have no idea why other than psychology.

Its funny although I was quite good playing small football I found it very difficult to score in proper 6 a side with the smaller hard ball...the opposite lol..
Obviously being closed down quick it was more difficult.
There is definitely a lot to do with the psychology of the game..but I
was never involved in big time football..all though I could play a bit...