Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I'm delighted that you aren't in charge of recruitment at Spurs.
I'm delighted that you aren't in charge of recruitment at Spurs.
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Repetitive bickering and point scoring about money and our transfer policy
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Kingdawson
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Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
No actually that's not the case at all. That might be your primary point or the point of the various other posters but this whole debate started when it was declared that we had no money (or little money) last summer and that the financial report shows that. You have to understand that there are various conversations going on at one time so your primary point might not be the same for others.
No actually that's not the case at all. That might be your primary point or the point of the various other posters but this whole debate started when it was declared that we had no money (or little money) last summer and that the financial report shows that. You have to understand that there are various conversations going on at one time so your primary point might not be the same for others.
Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
Agreed
There was a point made earlier how any manager is as good (or as bad) as the tools he's given
If Levy is unwilling to supply AVB with those - then I believe it is unrealistic to set Top 4 objectives or similar targets with players such as Dempsey, Hudd, Defoe, BAE, etc.
Agreed
There was a point made earlier how any manager is as good (or as bad) as the tools he's given
If Levy is unwilling to supply AVB with those - then I believe it is unrealistic to set Top 4 objectives or similar targets with players such as Dempsey, Hudd, Defoe, BAE, etc.
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Les Ferdinand
Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
My grievance has never been that we didn't and don't spend money because its clear that we do (within our means which is what any common sense would tell you is the correct way of doing things). My grievance has been that we spent 60m and a few of those, in my view, were not AVB purchases. This is in my opinion what backing the manager entails - getting who he wants (of course within our means).
This whole transfer committee business is gonad*s, I see committees everyday fudgein up because they don't make the decisions that is best for the objective at hand and to meet needs of people.
We constantly go around in circles for the reason, that has been stated numerous times throughout this thread, we are not privy to what is actually happening. Who knows maybe our mate Joe Lewis has given AVB 100m or maybe we have decided not to spend a penny... We do not have conclusive evidence for either.
What I do know is our squad is overrated with some glaring gaps in the first team and squad - these need to be filled if we want to be successful. The league is there to be won next season or the season after and we should grab our chances.
My grievance has never been that we didn't and don't spend money because its clear that we do (within our means which is what any common sense would tell you is the correct way of doing things). My grievance has been that we spent 60m and a few of those, in my view, were not AVB purchases. This is in my opinion what backing the manager entails - getting who he wants (of course within our means).
This whole transfer committee business is gonad*s, I see committees everyday fudgein up because they don't make the decisions that is best for the objective at hand and to meet needs of people.
We constantly go around in circles for the reason, that has been stated numerous times throughout this thread, we are not privy to what is actually happening. Who knows maybe our mate Joe Lewis has given AVB 100m or maybe we have decided not to spend a penny... We do not have conclusive evidence for either.
What I do know is our squad is overrated with some glaring gaps in the first team and squad - these need to be filled if we want to be successful. The league is there to be won next season or the season after and we should grab our chances.
Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
This
Braineclipse even stated we could probably only afford 15m in the summer, possibly even less
This
Braineclipse even stated we could probably only afford 15m in the summer, possibly even less
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Do people actually think we left this transfer to the last minute if we had planned it all along?
He was signed purely because we missed out on our primary attacking targets and needed some late cover and was ready and waiting to move on from his former club, well in my view of course, certainly was a transfer which came out of the blue - had it been planned i would have expected some genuine itk being discussed/ripped apart on here
Do people actually think we left this transfer to the last minute if we had planned it all along?
He was signed purely because we missed out on our primary attacking targets and needed some late cover and was ready and waiting to move on from his former club, well in my view of course, certainly was a transfer which came out of the blue - had it been planned i would have expected some genuine itk being discussed/ripped apart on here
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I'm delighted you are in charge of Levy's PR
I'm delighted you are in charge of Levy's PR
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Lets see he how he does once he is out of his first season, with hopefully a more balanced and complete squad before writing him off eh
Just an idea
Lets see he how he does once he is out of his first season, with hopefully a more balanced and complete squad before writing him off eh
Just an idea
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Absolutely - yes
Classic move hoping for a bargain - happens every day in life within many trade circles
Did it once myself when buying an old motor - knew the guy was leaving and desperate to sell. Waited as late as possible, made a cash over - he took it
- How do you know that
- Who were those targets
- Perhaps they were unrealistic to begin with - our own fault entirely - do you honestly think we aren't aware of players personal demands prior to starting negotiations?
Absolutely - yes
Classic move hoping for a bargain - happens every day in life within many trade circles
Did it once myself when buying an old motor - knew the guy was leaving and desperate to sell. Waited as late as possible, made a cash over - he took it
- How do you know that
- Who were those targets
- Perhaps they were unrealistic to begin with - our own fault entirely - do you honestly think we aren't aware of players personal demands prior to starting negotiations?
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I haven't written anyone off - please quote that very sentence - or in the words of your buddy Braineclipse - feel free to retract that statement
I haven't written anyone off - please quote that very sentence - or in the words of your buddy Braineclipse - feel free to retract that statement
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indianspur
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Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
i wonder what influence Levy's now grown up son is having on transfer targets. Sits next to his dad at games, always having a word in his ear.
imagine if one of us had a dad who was chairman of the mighty Spurs. Surely we would influence a few decisions
i wonder what influence Levy's now grown up son is having on transfer targets. Sits next to his dad at games, always having a word in his ear.
imagine if one of us had a dad who was chairman of the mighty Spurs. Surely we would influence a few decisions
WestBerkshire
Noé Pamarot
Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
Couldn't agree more its infuriating tbh fact we didn't even bring a forward in on loan in January sums up how much of a shambles it is at the club atm.
Couldn't agree more its infuriating tbh fact we didn't even bring a forward in on loan in January sums up how much of a shambles it is at the club atm.
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indianspur
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Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
id say that seems realistic. 15 mill before player sales. So if we manage to get rid of a few then the pot will grow.
id say that seems realistic. 15 mill before player sales. So if we manage to get rid of a few then the pot will grow.
Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
Too true - much lesser clubs managed to strengthen their attacking options for a fraction of what we paid for wasters over the last 2-3 years - then people still go off about not having 35 million for Cavani. Seriously
Too true - much lesser clubs managed to strengthen their attacking options for a fraction of what we paid for wasters over the last 2-3 years - then people still go off about not having 35 million for Cavani. Seriously
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
In the post i quoted unless i missunderstood the 'i thought we 'got' our Wenger quote'
What's happened to you man? you used to be cool
In the post i quoted unless i missunderstood the 'i thought we 'got' our Wenger quote'
What's happened to you man? you used to be cool
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indianspur
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Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Danny boy and his last minute squeeze on every deal. He loves it
Danny boy and his last minute squeeze on every deal. He loves it
Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
Did you believe we could spend 100m in 08/09?
Did you believe we could spend 100m in 08/09?
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Noé Pamarot
Re: what has happened to the transfer section?
Adebayor-previously on loan
Vertonghen- seen at lane while redknapp still manager.
Sigurdsson-signed before avb was manager.
Dempsey- bargain bucket levy on deadline day thinking couldn't turn down the opportunity.
Which leaves lloris and Dembele who I believe avb may of indentified as targets and tbh not completely sure lloris was his target.
We need go out early this summer with intent and try buying who WE and most importantly who the manager wants to buy and not just picking up the scraps at end of window.
Agree about the signings not being avb signings.
Adebayor-previously on loan
Vertonghen- seen at lane while redknapp still manager.
Sigurdsson-signed before avb was manager.
Dempsey- bargain bucket levy on deadline day thinking couldn't turn down the opportunity.
Which leaves lloris and Dembele who I believe avb may of indentified as targets and tbh not completely sure lloris was his target.
We need go out early this summer with intent and try buying who WE and most importantly who the manager wants to buy and not just picking up the scraps at end of window.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
The Chelsea squad that Ancelotti inherited was a ready made title winning team. What Ancelotti achieved in his first season was only marginally above par.
If Spurs finish 5th, AVB's achievement will be on par.
The Chelsea squad that Ancelotti inherited was a ready made title winning team. What Ancelotti achieved in his first season was only marginally above par.
If Spurs finish 5th, AVB's achievement will be on par.
Re: **Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Then, unlike every other deadline day transfer deal we've done, did we hear nothing about it before hand?
The only other example is VdV who we know to have been a genuine last minute deal
Then, unlike every other deadline day transfer deal we've done, did we hear nothing about it before hand?
The only other example is VdV who we know to have been a genuine last minute deal