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OT: What next for Harry?
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metalgear
Nayim
QPR his toughest challenge ever? He's starting with a team that managed 0.3pts per game compared to us with 0.25pts per game (2 from 8). Of course we had a strong team that had won a cup the season before... but surely QPR can be better than the bottom 3-4 with their players so far?
Perhaps he's referrting to other 'attributes' when comparing the two :-"
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Mate - he's removing all responsibility from himself - making sure everyone know how 'bad' of a situation he's in
If they go down - he'll simply blame 4 points from 13 games, the players, idiot fans, etc.
If they stay up - he'll take ALL the credit and make sure every man and his fudging dog know about it via his pals in the media.
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Kingdawson
Banned
To say that a day before a big game where Dawson will probably start is pretty damn wreckless. To big up Defoe to that extreme level and then in the very next sentence say that about Dawson is also wreckless (especially when you state you're not selling Defoe because you have belief in him).
Spot on.
Dawson was as good as gone in August - I doubt much has changed since then and if Kaboul/BAE were fit he'd struggle to make the 18-man squad now that Caulker has come in leaps and bounds.
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id like to think that in the game against West Ham (and a few of the lesser' games he's played) he has shown that he offers something different to our remaining center backs and he would have given AVB a little food for thought. obviously you could say that Kaboul can cover that side of the game but maybe Daws will get an extension till the end of the season, at least, as there's no guarantee that Kaboul will pick up where he left of performance wise. There's plenty of games remaining this season where he would be the ideal CB and AVB strikes me as a man who likes to have different options for different circumstances.
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He will always be a squad player nonetheless and numerous times in interviews he's expressed disappointment (as well as professional acceptance) of this very fact. Fair enough, I say.
Levy (for better or worse) knows a good re-sale and if someone offers him regular football while paying us a decent fee for a player who will be 30 next season - I think he will (and for his career sake - should) take his chances
Levy (for better or worse) knows a good re-sale and if someone offers him regular football while paying us a decent fee for a player who will be 30 next season - I think he will (and for his career sake - should) take his chances
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Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
I disagree, to say that about Dawson is more of an open challenge imo. It's a prove to me that you are good enough, and we'll see what happens in the Jan window.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Of course, its what he always does.
jts1882
Dean Richards
Dawson is, fairly or not, well down our list of CBs. Defoe is our only fit and unsuspended striker. Its not surprising to hear AVB's comments. He needs Defoe but thinks he could get money to spend by selling Dawson. That said, I'd prefer it if tried to boost Dawson more, for confidence and/or boosting his value.
I think what happens to us and QPR could go a long way to determining where 'Arry stands as one of our top managers. If AVB gets the team together and we finish in the top four, while QPR get relegated, then it will strengthen the perception that 'Arry was a good manager but was in the right place at the right time during our progress under Levy. If QPR escape comfortably and we end up in mid-table then 'Arry can rightly get praised for all he did and raised in the pantheon. If we end up in the Europa places and QPR just escape the great 'Arry debate can continue.
I think what happens to us and QPR could go a long way to determining where 'Arry stands as one of our top managers. If AVB gets the team together and we finish in the top four, while QPR get relegated, then it will strengthen the perception that 'Arry was a good manager but was in the right place at the right time during our progress under Levy. If QPR escape comfortably and we end up in mid-table then 'Arry can rightly get praised for all he did and raised in the pantheon. If we end up in the Europa places and QPR just escape the great 'Arry debate can continue.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
no way dawson is that bad. athleticism aside dawson is one of our top 3 CBs as far as consistency at a high level goes over the years he has been here with us
i think people just forget
i think people just forget
The Moonlit Knight
Banned
They've played more games.
Let's say that to be safe a team needs 38pts this season. That means QPR have 24 games to earn 33pts.
That means they have to average 1.4pts per game until the end of the season.
Over a 38 game season that would equate to 53pts. That would have been good enough for an 8th place Premier League finish the last two seasons and a 9th place finish the season before that.
If the season were just starting are QPR good enough for a top 10 finish, let alone top 8? Probably not, and yet to keep QPR up that is the sort of form that QPR must have until the end of the season.
I personally don't think QPR will stay up. In fact, I don't think they'll get anywhere near.
Kingdawson
Banned
Very good post wasn't it. I never look that in depth when looking at these things.
Unfortunately theoretical mathematics does not win football games. If a manager is good like Martinez he can take inferior players to win at Manchester United or go on a good run to safety.
If HR is any good he can save them if he does not save them he has not done a good enough job. Some posters used to start every season saying we would be lucky to get 8th and give long winded reasons as to why.
There is still a lot of that about when discussing HR.
If HR is any good he can save them if he does not save them he has not done a good enough job. Some posters used to start every season saying we would be lucky to get 8th and give long winded reasons as to why.
There is still a lot of that about when discussing HR.
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
'The Hoops’ return of no wins and just four points from their first 13 games is now the worst start in Premier League history.'
After their draw in the 14th game, they're now even further (8 points) from safety. I think Harry's the man for the job, but he's got his work cut out.
After their draw in the 14th game, they're now even further (8 points) from safety. I think Harry's the man for the job, but he's got his work cut out.
RigorMortis
Kevin Scott
It seems you have found a stick to beat AVB with and are using it.
Its pretty clear, whether you or I agree with his opinion or not, that AVB sees Dawson behind the likes of Kaboul, Verts,Caulker and even Gallas in his list of favoured central defenders. He was also prepared to let him go in the summer. Given these set of circumstances he gave an honest appraisal of the situation, anything else would have been disingenuous to the fans and to Dawson himself and we would all have known it. If Dawson gets a chance between now and the Jan transfer window, its up to him to make himself indispensible to AVB. Given his career to date I’m sure he won’t bear a grudge against AVB but will perform to the best of his ability.
Whether he fall shorts of the standards AVB demands is open to question.