• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Mike Dean comments

Not a fan of Wenger (obvs) but the fact he called Mike Dean a liar and then stuck to his guns is something I can respect.

Dean should pay back his fine…

How tf can any referee say they are doing anything other than controlling the match to the best of their ability?

For me this highlights the overall culture. It’s certainly not one of impartial professionalism. Cheating cnuts the lot of them.
 
At least, now, we know why he's such a poor referee. It's really an interesting case because - I think - it goes much beyond the football sphere. It seems Western societies have become so passive that a number of people daily push the envelope further and further, just to see if there's going to be a reaction. These people are goading you into doing something about it but nothing happens. In that, Dean is no different from Infantino, Trump or any other wind-up merchant.

People (Spurs fans in particular last season) have been asking some serious questions about refereeing and instead of answering these questions, the Mike Deans of this world just keep adding fuel to the fire. It says a lot about the kind of societies we live in: people make infuriated comments in front of a screen (myself included) but they don't have the time or energy to actually make it change. It's a vicious circle that we can't get out of at the moment.

We'll see what happens, but I doubt it will lead to any real change. The media will dismiss it as a former referee trying to gloat his way into relevance or something like that.
 
I think what @revlis and @Mr Gogolak post really plays into the PGMOL process of screening, monitoring and promoting referees to the elite level not working at all. They have a database of 600 or so officials up and down the country and if the process is working then we would clearly see the best referees bubble to the surface and get into the Select Group. They would resemble more what @revlis write above if the process was working correctly.

Instead, you end up with self promoting gobbricks like Mike Dean who was clearly only in it to get noticed as a referee with another agenda to forge a subsequent career in media. Then to @Mr Gogolak 's point you have the societal challenge that it seems to be OK that we tolerate these idiots and even add fuel to their fire and encourage them.

Put these guys in an organisation who think they are untouchable and you see the mess we're in under Howard Webb. I reckon PGMOL is probably up there as the worst set of referee's in world football. I bet they earn the most as well.
 
Mr Gogolak said:
At least, now, we know why he's such a poor referee. It's really an interesting case because - I think - it goes much beyond the football sphere. It seems Western societies have become so passive that a number of people daily push the envelope further and further, just to see if there's going to be a reaction. These people are goading you into doing something about it but nothing happens. In that, Dean is no different from Infantino, Trump or any other wind-up merchant.

People (Spurs fans in particular last season) have been asking some serious questions about refereeing and instead of answering these questions, the Mike Deans of this world just keep adding fuel to the fire. It says a lot about the kind of societies we live in: people make infuriated comments in front of a screen (myself included) but they don't have the time or energy to actually make it change. It's a vicious circle that we can't get out of at the moment.

We'll see what happens, but I doubt it will lead to any real change. The media will dismiss it as a former referee trying to gloat his way into relevance or something like that.
Click to expand...

I watched the ref watch spot on sky sports on Monday, all about utd and maguires hand ball.
No mention of the penalty at spurs.
If that was an isolated incident I could understand it, but apparently we've went a record 40 PL games without a penalty, at what point does someone say "hang on, maybe we need to keep an eye on this and see what's going on."
No one, least of all spurs, are mentioning it so it's getting swept under the carpet.
 
Muttley said:
I think what @revlis and @Mr Gogolak post really plays into the PGMOL process of screening, monitoring and promoting referees to the elite level not working at all. They have a database of 600 or so officials up and down the country and if the process is working then we would clearly see the best referees bubble to the surface and get into the Select Group. They would resemble more what @revlis write above if the process was working correctly.

Instead, you end up with self promoting gobbricks like Mike Dean who was clearly only in it to get noticed as a referee with another agenda to forge a subsequent career in media. Then to @Mr Gogolak 's point you have the societal challenge that it seems to be OK that we tolerate these idiots and even add fuel to their fire and encourage them.

Put these guys in an organisation who think they are untouchable and you see the mess we're in under Howard Webb. I reckon PGMOL is probably up there as the worst set of referee's in world football. I bet they earn the most as well.
Click to expand...

I think ‘self-promoting gobbricks’ is a feature, not a bug. These types rise to the top because unfortunately it takes a particular type of personality to deal with the abuse and everything else that comes with being professional ref in the most watch sports competition in the world.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back