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Classic Signings - Rafael Van Der Vaart

revlis said:
Not sure how much wider my horizons could be living in Japan, self-teaching myself to Japanese fluency. Oh and I moved here in part because after experience the earthquake and tsunami in 2011, I came back to volunteer for a couple of weeks and helped raise $25,000 for a school to educate kids who lost their parents that day.

But I’m the ill-informed one who lacks humanity because of a few posts on a football message board. Keep it up mate.
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Altruistic too, I see. All the best people highlight their positive behaviour.... Being a bellend isn't counter-balanced by the good you've done.
 
Penwith Pete said:
Altruistic too, I see. All the best people highlight their positive behaviour.... Being a bellend isn't counter-balanced by the good you've done.
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Yeah, I’m pretty proud of what I did mate. It was a life-changing experience for me.

But what the fudge is your issue? You even said yourself agree with me…so I have no fudging idea what you are on about and reckon I might bow out of this here. Especially as you seem intent on both complaining that I add nothing positive yet continually label me tool, plank, bellend etc.
 
I honestly always thought he was overrated. Fun to watch, some superb moments, but ultimately didn't move the needle a whole bunch for us. He played less than 77 games for us.
 
thfcsteff said:
I honestly always thought he was overrated. Fun to watch, some superb moments, but ultimately didn't move the needle a whole bunch for us. He played less than 77 games for us.
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Thats because what actually need that window was a striker and VDV was a last minute desperation cover plaster stuck over the gaping hole and it worked because most fans don't even remember now how we once again didn't actually address the very obvious gap in the squad. If we had signed a striker and VDV then we would have really been cooking with gas.
 
billyiddo said:
VDV was great for us and certainly moved the needle in terms of mentality - he took games by the stuff of the neck and scored important/winning goals
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We didn't win knock-out games. We didn't win the cup semi-final he played in. We didn't win the CL QF we were in. I am not saying it was on him to do so, but he didn't drag us through massive games. Of course the NLD @ emirates was massive. Enjoyable but overrated IMO.
 
DaveT316 said:
40 goals + assists in 63 league games for us. That’s mighty impressive. Came up big in the champions league too.

Massive pillock though, putting it mildly.
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Those stats certainly do put my memories into perspective...slightly skewed maybe? I suppose I just sigh when I see him in the same list as Hoddle, Gascoigne, Modric, Bale, Kane, Son...I'd put him in the Berba category, and even then I'd take Berba every time...but I have to say, the stats do paint a good picture, and perhaps my memory is rusty.
 
thfcsteff said:
Those stats certainly do put my memories into perspective...slightly skewed maybe? I suppose I just sigh when I see him in the same list as Hoddle, Gascoigne, Modric, Bale, Kane, Son...I'd put him in the Berba category, and even then I'd take Berba every time...but I have to say, the stats do paint a good picture, and perhaps my memory is rusty.
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He was one of them players who slowed the game to his pace but added start quality. He was so good mate, I loved him. One of the true World Class players we had. Shame he has a Vauxhall conference brain ............... *ducks for cover
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
He was one of them players who slowed the game to his pace but added start quality. He was so good mate, I loved him. One of the true World Class players we had. Shame he has a Vauxhall conference brain ............... *ducks for cover
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It's odd how despite all the evidence (and some fun times watching him) I feel the way I do.
I think perhaps it is because for me, the player who really made it all happen then was Luka, who allowed VdV to be himself.
Again, I am willing to accept my memory might be 'off' or even somehow subconsciously biased for whatever reason (genuinely not thinking of his trangressions, albeit they are poor) ?
 
thfcsteff said:
It's odd how despite all the evidence (and some fun times watching him) I feel the way I do.
I think perhaps it is because for me, the player who really made it all happen then was Luka, who allowed VdV to be himself.
Again, I am willing to accept my memory might be 'off' or even somehow subconsciously biased for whatever reason (genuinely not thinking of his trangressions, albeit they are poor) ?
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Everyone has different views mate.....100%
 
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