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Finney Is Back said:
We can’t afford to spend a boat load. Instead we need Vinai to improve the structure so that the decent amount of money that we can afford to spend is spent far better and there is a coherent plan when we change manager.
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I’m sure with Vicario, Romero and other reportedly going in the summer, we can make a few quid to spend and we must be able to spend £150m this summer without outgoings.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Most were critical of recruitment, me included. I was very critical of the club for not bringing players in. Only the few who subscribed to the “by being brave, Poch means sticking with what we have” school of thought weren’t critical of recruitment.

But how many were saying “we should sell Toby, Eriksen and Dele”? Because we aren’t talking about who we were bringing in here, we’re talking about who should have gone. I’d have happily had Grealish, Wijnaldum and Mane but over N’jie, Nkoudou, Janssen and Sissoko. Not over our first 11/13 players.
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It was only really the cult of Daniel Levy fan club on here who said Poch’s being brave comment meant that.

I don’t think Pochettino had ever advocated selling Dele. From what I remember Poch was happy to sell players who no longer wanted to be here.
 
Yiddo said:
I’m sure with Vicario, Romero and other reportedly going in the summer, we can make a few quid to spend and we must be able to spend £150m this summer without outgoings.
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Yes, I think Vic, Romero and Dragusin bring in around €100m, with maybe €75m of that being considered ‘profit’. If we stay up then I think we could add another £70m or so. I think we may also see Sarr leave this summer, that would probably add another £20m to the kitty.
 
DeanoAustin said:
But how many were saying “we should sell Toby, Eriksen and Dele”?
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Not many, loads in hindsight, many after the horse had bolted. The only one that came close was the "should have sold Dier to United, all about selling at the right time, Fergie would have" but from memory that came after, cant remember too many saying sell when that report appeared.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Not many, loads in hindsight, many after the horse had bolted. The only one that came close was the "should have sold Dier to United, all about selling at the right time, Fergie would have" but from memory that came after, cant remember too many saying sell when that report appeared.
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Poch didn’t want to sell Dier as far as I remember.
 
Finney Is Back said:
It was only really the cult of Daniel Levy fan club on here who said Poch’s being brave comment meant that.

I don’t think Pochettino had ever advocated selling Dele. From what I remember Poch was happy to sell players who no longer wanted to be here.
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He possibly didn’t but the talk is Toby and Eriksen. You’d have to say with hindsight, we should have sold Dier to United for 50m and Dele (albeit some might argue that he wouldn’t have fallen so spectacularly with Poch).

The original point is about moving on lads who don’t fit anymore. According to Poch on Stick to Football, that was as key as bringing in new lads and he said it’s not about how good or bad the players you’re moving on are, it’s about lads who just don’t fit anymore. And that would have been some of the group we’d all become very emotionally attached to and who still looked close to their peak. Fergie did it with McGrath, Whiteside, Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis, Stam etc.

The difference for me is that Levy was too risk averse to do that IMO and you really need outstanding recruitment or a brilliant academy to do it effectively.

It’s a huge “what if” moment for our club. It shattered Poch and set us on a path that ultimately culminated in catastrophically muddled thinking.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
So would I, I wasn't claiming otherwise. I was just agreeing that alot of stuff is Harry Hindsight FC when it comes to opinion.
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That’s Unavoidable. I just hope that the new head honchos try to ensure we always have a well invested and staffed recruitment structure and then if they happen to stumble open a great manager that overachieves then they back them (by empowering them to make decisions and not just in terms of spending money).
 
Baleforce said:
If Dier had gone to United for 50m we’d have lost our brick the way we did when we sold Berbatov.

It’s even easier to MMQB it when you forget all the stick when we did sell players to our rivals.
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Why on earth would the club have sold a player who was happy at Spurs that the (excellent) manager really wanted to keep?
 
DeanoAustin said:
He possibly didn’t but the talk is Toby and Eriksen. You’d have to say with hindsight, we should have sold Dier to United for 50m and Dele (albeit some might argue that he wouldn’t have fallen so spectacularly with Poch).

The original point is about moving on lads who don’t fit anymore. According to Poch on Stick to Football, that was as key as bringing in new lads and he said it’s not about how good or bad the players you’re moving on are, it’s about lads who just don’t fit anymore. And that would have been some of the group we’d all become very emotionally attached to and who still looked close to their peak. Fergie did it with McGrath, Whiteside, Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis, Stam etc.

The difference for me is that Levy was too risk averse to do that IMO and you really need outstanding recruitment or a brilliant academy to do it effectively.

It’s a huge “what if” moment for our club. It shattered Poch and set us on a path that ultimately culminated in catastrophically muddled thinking.
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With Poch and recruitment / sales I’m the same as when De Zerbi right now. Whatever he wants.

As long as there is alignment on the budget at the start, trust the manager in who he wants out and who he wants in.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
With Poch and recruitment / sales I’m the same as when De Zerbi right now. Whatever he wants.

As long as there is alignment on the budget at the start, trust the manager in who he wants out and who he wants in.
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It’s just wishful thinking the attrition is real my friend. I wouldn’t trust this board with a transfer budget of £1 let alone £1 billion. We have not had a succession of good transfers for a very very long time now.
 
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