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Trump and American politics

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by Danishfurniturelover, 26 Jan 2016.

  1. Craig_J

    Craig_J Alan Hutton

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    Saw this on a twitter comment.

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  2. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Nick Barmby

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    You don't need college degrees to be a genius, and having one certainly doesn't make a genius.

     
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    Kandi1977 Nayim

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    Certainly not. We hired a guy who didn't even finish secondary school, but he's been programming probably since he was wearing diapers, and he's the most brilliant programmer I've ever seen! Works non stop, and even when he's home!

    But I doubt the same can be applied to the orangutan.
     
  4. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Nick Barmby

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    Don't get me wrong trump is King of the Clams, but that's just a dumb, lazy tweet.
    If you make a weak argument then you give him an easy out.
     
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    StephenH Chris Jones

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    Dorito man is an indictment to the stupidity of humanity!
     
  6. Rorschach

    Rorschach Garth Crooks

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    The reference in the meme is to the 'stable genius' comment he has made about himself numerous times. He has threatened legal action against his alma mater if they release his grades. His professor in there said he was the stupidest student he ever taught.
     
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    StephenH Chris Jones

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    Boris was being briefed on HS2 by a mate of my Son! All he wanted talk about was “can he drive a train”!
     
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  8. Craig_J

    Craig_J Alan Hutton

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    You don’t need a to attend college to be a genius at all and you don’t even need to do excel academically to be smart (most people are ratarsed the entire time at that age anyway).

    But he did claim to have graduated first in his class - and to be the most powerful man on earth (and the most controversial president the United States has ever seen) - and think no one would ever attempt to verify that by examining it close up, to have suppressed and refused to release it when people start to ask for it, for him to refuse to despite saying Obama would have released his birth certificate if he didn’t have anything to hide, to have attacked Obama’s own performance as a Bachelor despite Obama excelling at grad school (something he never attended) is certainly all indicative of a pretty stupid man.
     
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  9. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Nick Barmby

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    Not arguing with any of that, and again not defending trump, but the equating having a college degree to being a genius is actually a very stupid and almost trump like statement.
    And making such a statement gives clams like trump the opportunity to point at it and expose the stupidity of it and undermine the whole argument.
    If you are going to take on people like trump you can leave them no room to wiggle.
     
  10. Craig_J

    Craig_J Alan Hutton

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    You and I both know him constructing a believable, rational argument would never happpen - he’d just say it’s fake news and maintain his own version of events. Even if you said “We obtained your grade certificate from the briefcase you keep underneath your bed” he’d vent on about how it was planted by Obama, Clinton, the deep state before signing off “Drain the swamp!”
     
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    glasgowspur Nick Barmby

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    That's true, but you shouldn't be trying to get in an argument with him, because he will always win.
    There's only one way to dereat him, put up arguments to the middle of the road Joe average that highlight his weakness that are cast iron, and there's loads of them.
    There is no point attacking his personality, that's what he wants, it keeps you away from the real issues.
     
  12. Craig_J

    Craig_J Alan Hutton

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    Sounds like you’re saying:


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    The very same strategy that lost Hilary the election last time?

    I think you’re underestimating the extent to which the Americans will always favour that person who gives no fudges because they are still protected by the first over drab social policy any day.
     
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    glasgowspur Nick Barmby

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    Except hillary didn't go hifh, she got into a slanging match with trump, a match she had no chance of winning.
    Facebook, twitter etc are full of memes, gifs, jokes etc on trump, guess what, he is about to walk the next election. He's running a mock in the DOJ, they've tried to impeach him ffs, and yet the election is all but a walk over.
    Why?
    They attack the man, with poor attacks that he can laugh off. The man has no shame, you can't win, he revels in it.
    The only way to defeat him is policies, highlight his fallacies and put forward your own ways to improve things.
    Trump has turned US politics into a trashy reality show, a stage he is comfortable in, a stage he can manipulate, people are falling for it because instead of standing in the audience and laughing and pointing at him exposing his lack of policy they are up on the stage making prats of themselves.
    They need to get back to politics.
     
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    Rorschach Garth Crooks

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    That is not what the meme is doing. It is highlighting Trump's stable genius boasts while he's still hiding his scores. It is not equating a college degree to being a genius.

    These memes serve no real purpose anyway except for bricks and giggles. They certainly don't change minds. If democrats are to win it is all about turnout really and the GOP know it. That is why the repubs are focussed mostly on suppressing the democratic vote in any way they can - disinformation, closing/moving polling stations, voter purges, trolls and bots campaigns, etc. If the turnout is high then the dem vote has solidified behind one candidate that candidate will likely win, is all the analysis I've seen. Trumps unfavourability has never dropped below 52% and no one has ever lost the electoral college with 52% of the vote.

    This is why Sanders is a dangerous choice. He has a devoted following but is not liked outside of that base. Warren is the best candidate IMO but her policies have made her lots of enemies and that coupled with the barely hidden misogyny means she's unlikely to be the candidate. Shame really.
     
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    scaramanga Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    Being Hilary Clinton lost her the election. She's even less electable than the entirely unelectable Trump.
     
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  16. Craig_J

    Craig_J Alan Hutton

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    This has to be satire? Is he a yid? Is he on GG? Is he Scara?

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...d-trump-obsessed-with-badgers-new-book-claims

     
  17. Jon

    Jon Jimmy Neighbour

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    NoLimits01 Clive Wilson

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    Jon Jimmy Neighbour

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    Poor form mate, you shouldn't indirect @scaramanga like that!
     
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    Baleforce Fanny Walden

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    It’s fine, he would have assumed it was about him anyway.
     
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