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The Stats Thread

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by zin, 4 Dec 2012.

  1. 7percent

    7percent Pascal Chimbonda

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    Possibly not that silly, affluent areas (London, big cities) teams do well because of investment, less affluent areas have less investment in their smaller football clubs.. These areas are more likely to sight Europe and/or immigration as reasons their communities are suffering, and vote accordingly.
     
  2. Jordinho

    Jordinho Tony Marchi Staff Member

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    The search for football's true meaning: how far should we go with statistical analysis?

    It's 1992. The back-pass rule has just been introduced. On the Monday following the opening weekend of the Premier League era, The Telegraph publishes a match report from Chelsea's 1-1 draw with Oldham headlined 'Back-pass rule is made spacegoat'.

    Both goals are attributed to mistakes made by players as a result of the new ruling. Two unhappy managers in Joe Royle and Ian Porterfield predict 'a flood of goals' by similar means in future. Within two months there are no more mentions of the back-pass rule in copies of the Telegraph.

    Fast-forward to the 2014 World Cup, where Jonathan Pearce had a meltdown during France's win over Honduras when there is the slightest indication that the new goal-line technology may have been mistaken. It was Pearce that had got it all wrong, of course.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...e-meaning-far-should-go-statistical-analysis/

    Long article suggesting viewers aren't as stupid as the broadcasters think they are.
     
  3. MKSpur

    MKSpur Chris Armstrong

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    Just thought I'd revive this as there's been a bit of discussion about players stats beguiling their actual performance.

    The assist one is interesting as in Alli's case if you didn't see the game 2 assists may gloss over the times he lost the ball or dallied on it when in a couple of good goal threatening positions. This is all relative to the extremely high standards he has set of course and the cross for the first goal did turn the match when it was quite tight, but if it's not intended as a pass I'm not sure someone following in a rebound from your shot should be judged as an assist?
     
  4. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Steve Carr

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    Agree. But if his shot had not been parried Kane doesn't score.
     
  5. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Christian Ziege

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  6. Spur of the moment

    Spur of the moment Steve Carr

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    Our crazy away stats -

    Last 7 games, all comps:

    6-1 Leicester City
    7-1 Hull City
    2-0 Newcastle Utd
    3-0 Everton
    3-2 West Ham Utd
    3-0 APOEL
    4-0 Huddersfield Town

    P7: W7 --- GF 28 - GA 4 --- GD +24

    Of those, Premier League only:

    P6: W6 --- GF 25 - GA 4 --- Pts 18 GD + 21

    Our best ever away winning sequence, ten wins in succession, came in 1960. As above it spanned two seasons with two of the away wins coming at the end of the 1959/60 season and the remainder at the beginning of 1960/61. All games were in the top flight:

    3-1 Chelsea
    3-1 Wolves
    3-1 Blackpool
    4-1 Blackburn Rovers
    2-1 Bolton Wanderers
    3-2 Arsenal
    2-1 Leicester City
    4-0 Wolves
    4-0 Nottingham Forest
    4-3 Newcastle United

    P10: W10 --- GF 32 - GA 11 --- Pts 20 (only 2 points for a win in those days); GD +21

    Our winning sequence that season was ended by a 1-2 defeat away to Sheffield Wednesday who were second at the time and finished as runners-up to us.
     
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  7. jts1882

    jts1882 Simon Davies

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    Well, our next away games are Real Madrid, Manchester United, Arsenal, Dortmund, Leicester, Watford and Emirates Marketing Project.
     
  8. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    14 in a row it is then.
     
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  9. braineclipse

    braineclipse Chris Jones

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    Quite a good conversation on stats on the last football weekly podcast believe it or not. Someone actually in the field talking about actual use of stats in the game.
     
  10. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Christian Ziege

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    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    Bedfordspurs Erik Thorstvedt

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    alekaras The ITK of IDK

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    SteveAWOL Christian Ziege

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    Aldo Ronnie Rosenthal

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    Will needs a girlfriend.
     
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  16. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    From the same site, showing how strong our defence is this season (even stronger than last):

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    SteveAWOL Christian Ziege

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    SteveAWOL Christian Ziege

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    parklane1 Jimmy Cantrell

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    It"s not often i agree with anything Stelling has to say but he is spot on about it being the most useless stat ever.
     
  20. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    There are two types of people in this world.

    Those who understand statistics and those who say they're useless.
     

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