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The Art of VAR

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Gutter Boy, 28 Feb 2018.

  1. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 John Lacy

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    Pickford was a sending off and was missed so maybe ref to that
     
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  2. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Les Ferdinand

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  3. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    Var see it as subjective so down to the ref
     
  4. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 John Lacy

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    I've seen VAR overturn many objective decisions
     
  5. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    Why should they, no other team has/can, have they ??
     
  6. Baleforce

    Baleforce Fanny Walden

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    the stones on them, they got about 60 points they shouldn’t have last season from dodgy VAR calls

    always the fudging victims
     
  7. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    Over turn many?
    I’ve seen it sit on the fence on nearly all now
     
  8. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 John Lacy

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    The PL has apologised for loads
     
  9. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    Has it really?
    Lo Celsos vs Chelsea which I’d argue all day wasn’t wrong. Playing it back in slow mo made it look much much worse
    Others?
     
  10. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 John Lacy

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    Mate there was one weekend I think Norwich were involved when they overturned 4 ref decisions wrongly and prem came out and apologised. Was three in there midweek games prem apologised for too
     
  11. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    didn’t they say that var could have intervened rather than they got it wrong
    As in var didn’t interject but should have
    We had a huge problem that VAR didn’t intervene on anything and the ref waited on VAR
     
  12. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 John Lacy

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    No these were penalties wrongly awarded when refs took no action.
     
  13. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    I’d need to track them ones again
    I remove quite a lot where the ref either did or didn’t give them and they said VAR should have intervened but didn’t
    I don’t remember any when VAR did intervene and over turn other than offsides
     
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    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    @Grays_1890

    It’s a tiny amount of changes due to var when you consider how many games were played and how many calls were made by officials over 380 games

    Total overturns: 109
    Leading to goals: 27
    Leading to disallowed goals: 56
    Penalties awarded: 22 (9 missed)
    Penalties overturned: 7 (1 for offside)
    Penalties retakes: 4 (1 from scored, 3 from missed)
    Goals ruled out for offside: 34
    Goals awarded after incorrect offside: 8
    Goals ruled out for handball: 14
    Goals allowed after wrong handball: 2
    Red cards: 9
    Overturned red cards: 3
     
  15. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 John Lacy

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    Yeh maybe, just responding with what I remember. It was the weekend Farke went mental and the prem issued a statement with Mike Riley.

    If you are going to improve the game with VAR it needs to be clear and obvious or factual based intervention or not at all. You cant have a man on the pitch give a subjective decision to be overuled by another which means we debate that for months like we did with refs only.

    There is also no logic to refer a decision to another man to then make a human error mistake but take longer to do it and do so with the help of tech and slow mo.

    For me if a ref makes a decision or not and you cant see it in a first slow mo you uphold his decision. If you need to roll back and forth its too much.

    It just seems an over complicated way of getting to the same level of accuracy we were getting before VAR was about with alot less enjoyment
     
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    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    scaramanga Vivian Woodward Staff Member

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    Always someone else's fault.
     
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    SteveAWOL Les Ferdinand

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    Baleforce Fanny Walden

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    He’s such a clam
     
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    SubZero Terry Yorath

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    Heat of the moment or not, the person in that clip is not a mentally healthy individual.
     

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