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Spurs & Covid

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by milo, 1 Jan 2021.

  1. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Frederic Kanoute

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    I think on the basis that none of the players were killed that my use of the term lynch was not literal.
     
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    Grays_1890 Frederic Kanoute

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    The issue is that football has backed themselves into a corner with trying to play a full season of fixtures during a global pandemic. If Villa has an outbreak then the totally safe thing to do is to close the facility and cancel fixtures, if the outbreak is proven to be natural transition and not a protocol break you cant really punish teams. In wanting to put football on its going to have to roll with this even if it means delays, the chance that the season was going to run seamlessly went out the window from the first fixture.
     
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  3. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    They should cancel the Euro's now, also stop all International football until further notice
     
  4. MKSpur

    MKSpur Paul Stalteri

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    Is there a clear threshold for when a game should be cancelled. Obviously the risk of transmission is the priority, but after that how many first team players need to have positive tests to warrant a postponement? Is it the team or Prem league who decide on cancellations?
    Orient may feel hard done by that their cup game was forfeited yet the FA Cup and Prem games appear to be postponable.
     
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    MKSpur Paul Stalteri

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    Totally agree with this. It’s a little different from the week to week activity that is needed to keep the clubs afloat, the mixing is much wider than national bubble. I’d put European competition next in the list of consideration too.
     
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    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    2050 should do it.
     
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  7. AdamB

    AdamB Colin Calderwood

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    That won't happen IMO - too much sponsorship etc involved. And the internationals are already crammed in (3 in an international window) so cant be crammed in more

    There's also only 3 weeks between the end of the PL season and start of the Euros so tough to run the PL season a week longer

    Therefore I think the only way they'll get through this is having weeks towards the end of the season where teams which reach the later stages of the CL or EL will have to play 3 games in a week (Sat, Mon, Wed/Thurs).

    Teams who don't get to the later stages of CL or EL will be fine - so if we get knocked out before, say, the EL QFs then we'd play our Fulham game on the date when the EL semis would be
     
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    P.D. Justin Edinburgh

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    The rule was supposed to be that if you have 14 players available then you have to play but as far as we can tell games have been postponed when clubs could have met that criteria. I mean City had 5/6 players missing last weekend and still played but I didn't hear Fulham had as many cases - it might be that by the time we played them it wasn't clear who had or didn't have it I guess but the league should release details so it's fair and transparent.
     
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  9. Robbo

    Robbo Jimmy Neighbour

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    It was always going to be a clusterfudge season with covid-19 raging and UEFA/FIFA/PL only concerned about TV and sponsorship money - not about fans, player welfare or the severity of the pandemic.

    How big of a clusterfudge it will be, we'll see over the winter.
     
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  10. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Frederic Kanoute

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    Which makes sense with injuries but not sure how that works for a contagious virus. I would think that if you have 5/6 players that have it in a working environment the sensible thing would be to contain it and not risk further spread rather than force those available to play. Yeh they are tested but tests are not full proof and TBH if I was the chairman of a club not sure I would wanna risk my staff and players against a team that has had a large known breach.
     
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    Grays_1890 Frederic Kanoute

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    Actually more reason so, from my involvement in bidding for Sport events the investment locally comes from countries including local hotels and tourism bodies contributing to the bid (usually called a bid book), hotels and local DMOs (cities) pay towards bidding for an event because they work out their ROI on heads on beds, incoming fans etc, that has a huge knock on to sponsors too, sponsors will be paying for point of sale exposure, Visa will be paying to have their logo all over cities etc, less exposure less reason to be involved so Sponsors who have also been hit financially will want out, I would have pulled my marketing funds out of the event already TBH. Would make it better for everyone from the sponsorship to the city for it not to happen
     
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    JerusalemMan Vedran Corluka

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  13. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Vivian Woodward

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    I think it will give us a strong argument
     
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    AdamB Colin Calderwood

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    Agreed, and they'll have some, but not all, first-teamers back for the game against us. Their first positive tests were Mon this week so its likely that some of their players have had covid for a week perhaps more by now. Some of those will likely be showing negative by next Tues/Wed...but presumably they'd be without a few players though
     
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    Bedfordspurs Vivian Woodward

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    Well there is some reporting that Wednesday will be off as they can’t play under strength as it devalues the competition....
    I’d argue that not playing by the rules that competition set early doors is the bigger issue. They cancelled games when teams had enough players and now that’s the precedent
    I guess when out fixture pile up happens again we can get Covid and get the games cancelled...
     
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    AdamB Colin Calderwood

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    Other teams have played under strength teams when they've been missing 2-3 players. Agree that if Villa are missing say 15 players then it'll likely be off, but if its in the say 4-5 region then I think it'll go ahead
     
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    Bedfordspurs Vivian Woodward

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    I don’t think they can play the cup with kids and then pull out of the league
    They are both FA competitions for a start
     
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    AdamB Colin Calderwood

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    Their argument is that they were going to rest a lot of first-teamers for the cup game anyway, which I think they did last season too. Agree that their hand will be weakened though by going ahead with the Liverpool game and fielding in their U23s
     
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    Bedfordspurs Vivian Woodward

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    Rest them for the league or cup?
     
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    AdamB Colin Calderwood

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    Edited now - cup game
     
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