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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by SpurMeUp, 19 Feb 2019.

  1. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Steffen Freund

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    So much for Farrage sailing down the Thames with a flotilla of fisherman. Got to feel sorry for them, of course taking control of our waters is appealing. Catchy and patriotic, who wouldn't want that? Like most things Brexit the devil is in the detail. That we sell most of our fish to the EU seems to have passed these fisherman by, and they have been right royally shafted. If it hadn't destroyed multi-generational family businesses it would actually be quite funny. But could be another nail in the coffin of these British coastal communities? Now tourism and holiday lets will be all there is in these areas. Still...the UK could clean up its waters to allow eu she’ll fish exports again; and get Brits eating more fish?

    UK shellfish farmers threaten legal action over ban on exports to EU

    Industry claims it was misled by Defra over post-Brexit position and will sue unless trade with Europe restarts soon

    The environment secretary, George Eustice, is facing a threat of legal action from shellfish farmers over claims the government has misled the industry over its post-Brexit arrangements with the EU.

    A solicitor representing 20 shellfish firms told the Guardian the government had shown “negligence and maladministration” and that they were considering a group action claim for compensation.
     
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  2. Gilzeantoscore

    Gilzeantoscore Jermaine Jenas

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    The dumb dumbs who believed Johnson deserve everything they get. They will get no sympathy from me.
     
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  3. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover the prettiest spice girl

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    The problem was with Johnson caving into the EU demands and getting nothing in return.

    I know of no other country that gives away its natural resources for free, it was pathetic negotiating from a pathetic government.
     
  4. Baleforce

    Baleforce Paul Miller

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    Most of the countries in the world used to give us stuff for free.
     
  5. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover the prettiest spice girl

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    I am not talking about giving stuff away for free. A trade deals works for all parties, boris gave away a natural resource (fish) in return for absolutely nothing.

    He is an idiot and they are idiots to do any deals without including financial services in the agreement. Expecting goodwill from them is something anyone who has followed European politics should know was not going to be forthcoming. Brought home to everyone now after how they have behaved over the vaccines.
     
  6. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover the prettiest spice girl

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    Should add countries never gave stuff to us for free either. If you are referencing the Empire then it is beyond any doubt that Britain went and stole from these countries and that they were not properly or adequately compensated.

    Was wrong then and is wrong now.
     
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  7. Gilzeantoscore

    Gilzeantoscore Jermaine Jenas

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    With 37 billion pounds of our money given to his spiv business mates and now more public funds given to his bit on the side, the question needs to be asked. Is Boris the most corrupt political leader Britain has had since the 19th century and are the Tories the most corrupt government ever?
     
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  8. NoLimits01

    NoLimits01 Wilson Palacios

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    ‘cough’ Blair’s Labour ‘cough’
     
  9. StephenH

    StephenH Les Howe

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    Not even close
     
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    NoLimits01 Wilson Palacios

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    Hahah you guys are funny some times
     
  11. parklane1

    parklane1 Tommy Harmer

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    Who also took us into illegal war, those who are strong Labour folks tend to overlook that.
     
  12. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Gerry Armstrong

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    ricky2tricky4city Paul Robinson

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    Mikey10 Gerry Armstrong

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    Gilzeantoscore Jermaine Jenas

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    You're kidding right? Blair was morally corrupt, but I'm talking about shovelling billions of pounds out to Bozo's mates and on the side fudges.
     
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    Gilzeantoscore Jermaine Jenas

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    Bozo and the Tories will get away with it. The standards expected of them are just so low. 37 billion has been handed out to patrons of the Tory Party and all people can retort with is "what about Blair?" Really?
     
  17. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Steffen Freund

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    That is indeed Boris’ ‘genius’, we expect no less of him. He presents shambolic, charming bafoon and we get the very same.

    I actually think without Brexit and Covid he would have been a breath of fresh air and quite progressive - open to fresh ideas. But as is so often the case romantic dreams and reality collide.


    Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
  18. markysimmo

    markysimmo Johnny nice-tits

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    The UK's largest trade union is under growing pressure to commission an independent review into the spending of almost £100m of members' money on building a hotel and conference centre.

    Len McCluskey, general secretary of Unite, is also facing questions as to why the development's main construction contract was awarded to a company owned by a friend.

    The project in Birmingham, which includes new union offices, was intended to save on hotel rooms and conference bills. Yet after an initial estimate of £7m, the building costs ballooned to £57m before construction even began.

    Now complete, Unite has confirmed the total expenditure on the project is more than £98m.

    The development's key contract was awarded to Liverpool-based Flanagan Group, a firm run by McCluskey ally Paul Flanagan.

    A health and safety contract was awarded to SSC, a company owned by David Anderson, the son of former Liverpool mayor Joe Anderson.

    Mr Flanagan and both David and Joe Anderson have been arrested on suspicion of bribery as part of a Merseyside Police corruption investigation not linked to Unite

    All three deny wrongdoing and have been released under investigation. There is no suggestion of any criminal wrongdoing in the union's dealings with either company.

    "I feel angry," said Labour MP and Unite member Neil Coyle, who is among those calling for an inquiry.

    "I feel this is an outrageous abuse of positions to use members' hard earned subs to fund a project that's gone catastrophically wrong and there's been no apologies."

    Ben Bradshaw, a former Labour cabinet minister, said: "The obvious answer to the lack of transparency is to have an independent inquiry and I think that's absolutely the right thing to do and I think that's what the members would expect."

    Unite refused Sky News requests to interview Mr McCluskey, but accepted the initial estimate for the project was too low.

    A spokesperson said: "As with all construction projects, and especially one of this scale, costs will have risen over the duration of the project.

    "Unite's refusal to use cheaper, under-paid, non-union labour added to the costs, as did our decision to add a floor to the hotel and up the classification from three to four star."

    The union denied suggestions that the tendering process was not transparent and has previously said Mr McCluskey played no part.

    Mr McCluskey is due to stand down as Unite general secretary within months, after 10 years in the role.

    The union's assistant general secretaries Steve Turner and Howard Beckett are frontrunners to succeed him, with Sharon Graham and centrist Gerard Coyne also expected to stand.

    Mr Coyne said the Birmingham project had frustrated Unite's members.

    "They struggle to understand how the union could spend nearly £100m on a four-star hotel and conferencing facility that doesn't give them the workplace support and backing, the very reason that they joined a trade union for," he said.
     
  19. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Edgar Davids

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    How the EU have behaved over the vaccine is no different to any other country. America have blocked exports of vaccine, little is said about it. India stopped exports of the AstraZeneca vaccines as their cases rise. I am not aware that we, the UK, have yet to export a single dose of completed vaccine.

    The EU members are politicians after all who are subject to political pressure at home. I don’t agree with vaccine nationalism but it is completely understandable and not something unique to one country.
     
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    Robspur12 Edgar Davids

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    Wasn’t the Liverpool mayor removed from office because of this?
     

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