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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by SpurMeUp, 19 Feb 2019.

  1. SpurMeUp

    SpurMeUp Ian Walker

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    Naples you have to know locals. And ideally for them to have a yacht! Lots of beautiful old squares, parties, a stunning coast, sail to Capri. Still not sure if my friends father is connected.

    The other thing you might appreciate is the complete freedom. Rules are not really observed. Traffic lights just for decoration, and you can truly express yourself as a driver exploiting literally any space available! Payments etc.

    Ps Havana is very safe. Not like Naples. Would take kids there. Plenty of nature outside the city too.


    Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
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    P.D. Jermaine Jenas

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    I think there's different categories for living and visiting. I'd choose London to live in by a long long way, fabulous city that really has everything.

    For visiting my favourites are probably Tokyo and Seville. Love Sydney by the harbour as well but painful getting around and you can't drink late.
     
  3. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    I'm not concerned about it being dangerous, I just want to enjoy it!

    Capri is beautiful but I consider it more Sorrento/Positano which are more my kind of place than Naples.
     
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    Grays_1890 Michael Carrick

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    I’ve been Naples and wouldn’t consider it dangerous.
     
  5. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    It's certainly not the kind of place I'd wear the watches or shoes I'd wear in London
     
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    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    Ashamed to say I forgot to mention both those cities in my list, yet I have been several times to each and love them too. I am going to edit my post now to reflect that!
     
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    ShipOfTheseus Alan Hutton

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    I wonder how much the majority can be eroded before the next election?

    Rayleigh and Wickford, annoyingly, is one of the safest Tory seats imaginable, so a by-election (should anything happen to disrupt Mark Francois’ career) wouldn’t change any parliamentary maths.
     
  8. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Michael Carrick

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    I think a fair bit...

    Kier seems to be a serious contender and I get the feeling Boris is having his Churchill moment with Covid
     
  9. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Les Medley

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    Churchill in gallipoli perhaps.

    If the tories want to stay in they need to get rid of him a year out from the next election. Dont see how they keep all their one time northern votes.

    Im going labour as to long of one party is bad in my view. As long as kier does not try to take us back in the EU which from talking to my eldest sister who works for the civil service, we are not really leaving anyway.
     
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    Danishfurniturelover Les Medley

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    Haha wondered who it was.
     
  11. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Michael Carrick

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    He will get his customary pat on the back and see you later like Churchill. Ironic as it was his hero
     
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    Gilzeantoscore Mauricio Taricco

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    So a Tory MP has been arrested for sexually assaulting a member of staff. Which one I wonder. Rees Mogg made aware of the allegations a month ago apparently.
     
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    ricky2tricky4city Frederic Kanoute

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    The answer is a few posts up.
     
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    Gilzeantoscore Mauricio Taricco

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    Him? That fat faced fudger? Ha, ha.
     
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    Diamond Lights Andy Gray

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    It's rape no, not sexual assault?

    So, i get that people are innocent until proven guilty, and that is the right way our judiciary works.

    However, surely this individual needs to have the whip withdrawn until such time the conclusion has been made? For example, let's say a new rape law is passing through the house, how can we have someone facing a rape charge having the ability to vote on a rape law? What if said person is found guilty after that vote?

    Truly remarkable. Not saying sack them, but should not be allowed to vote on laws facing such a charge until police investigation concluced.
     
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    scaramanga Tony Galvin Staff Member

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    Wouldn't that make it a little too simple to just accuse MPs you didn't want sitting in certain votes?
     
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    Parklaner81 Steve Hodge

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    In the unlikely event that such an extreme set of circumstances were to actually come together wouldn't an abstention, 'encouraged' if necessary, be a sensible middle ground?
     
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    galeforce Ricky Villa

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    I don’t know about this, mud sticks, and never really washes off, innocent until proven guilty is important.

    The system needs to speed up, it shouldn’t take this long to investigate such accusations.
     
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    Diamond Lights Andy Gray

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    All fair points, no one is asking for the person to be 'outed' as you say, they may well be innocent. Just feel that MPs do need to be held to a higher standard as they are making laws that govern this country.

    Not saying i have the solution either, but massively uneasy about it all. Of course, media doing a sterling job of barely raising the issue at all. Pretty incredible when the Daily Star holds the government to account more than mainstream published titles...
     
  20. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Michael Carrick

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    Hmmm

    This law covers people as humans not as public and politicians and there is a reason for that due to the aforementioned innocent till proven guilty.

    The accusation may well be true but as with some cases may be a false claim so it’s best to let the law do the laws work.

    Im not sure what part of government needs to be held accountable on this issue?
     
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