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Players Released

Discussion in 'Transfer Rumours' started by Jordinho, 7 Jun 2013.

  1. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Chris Perry

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    That's a noble enough endeavor, if we're sure the youth players we're making way for are good enough to occupy the places we've seemingly reserved for them. However, of our current crop, I don't see many ready to make the jump into the first team right away, and generally even when they are ready (I believe Pritchard definitely is, for example), my view is that the place for these youngsters should be behind our first eleven (on the bench or in the 25) with their brief being to show enough in training to make the step up when a first-teamer gets injured or loses form.

    For example, for now I see CCV as being a couple of good years away from being able to slot into the side, and concurrently, I can't see Jan staying for more than another season, with doubts over Fazio's longer-term future as well (again, I can't see him staying past, say, 2017): that's space that CCV (along with Veljkovic, for example) can move into, and is also why I'm not too crazy about signing another CB in the near-term. However, my view is that our youth players (CCV and Veljkovic, in this instance) should start at the bottom of the list when it comes to the pecking order our four CBs are arranged in (with the other two being Dier and Wimmer, presumably), moving up as an when the opportunity presents itself.

    I feel that I do harbour disagreements with Gutter over this, since he seems a lot more gung-ho about throwing our lads into the first-team straight away, which for me would only send us careening backwards as a team and as a side ostensibly competing for things. No doubt, we've got talent at the back (Veljkovic in the short term, CCV and KWP in the slightly longer term) and in midfield (Onomah and Winks in the short-term, Yahaya, Azzaoui, that Serbian chap (Lazar?) and Edwards in the medium term) that I'd love to see work their way into the side. But crucially, they shouldn't be given a straight role into the first eleven/eighteen. Use them to replace the players on the fringes of the first team that we're planning to ship out (Stambouli, Capoue et al), or start them at the bottom of the list as our more established players leave (the gradual departure of Verts, Fazio, Eriksen, Chadli et al) but don't use it as an excuse to avoid signing players that would benefit the first eleven.
     
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  2. Bullet

    Bullet Christian Ziege

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    We agree Dubai, we agree! Hallelujah and saints preserve us.

    NB. Just a secondary point though... when Kane and company couldn't get a Premier game whilst the "first teamers" were stinking up the place in Aug/Sept/Oct it was very frustrating, it took Poch AGES to realise that Capoue Kaboul Adebayor Paulinho were awful, going through the motions, no drive, no determination... soon Poch will get credit for bringing through the kids, but by GHod it took him weeks and weeks to figure out what was in front of his nose.
     
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  3. billyiddo

    billyiddo Paul Stewart Staff Member

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    frustrating, yes but you learn more from 10 games than you do from changing things every 3 or 4.
     
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  4. Sandman

    Sandman Sergei Rebrov

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    gave the old guard a fair crack of the whip? its been good that he gave all players a chance. He should know what he needs now going forward and what he does not need. Second season coming up. So ill judge him more on this one than the last.
     
  5. braineclipse

    braineclipse Andy Thompson

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    I'm not sure we disagree on much at all here...

    I just think giving our youth players a path into the first team is crucial for our youth policy to work. If not we end up like City/Chelsea with heavy spending on a youth level, but no real way for those players to become first team players.


    Spot on.
     
  6. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Chris Perry

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    No, we don't disagree here mate (although we seemingly do on the Linetty transfer :p ). I suspect my gripe is more with Gutter's gung-ho youth policy than it is with anything you've pointed out.
     
  7. Jordinho

    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    Players on Premier League clubs’ released list

    Arsenal


    Semi Ajayi
    Abou Diaby
    Jack Jebb
    Austin Lipman
    Ryo Miyaichi
    Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill
    Josh Vickers

    Aston Villa

    Darren Bent
    Graham Burke
    Alfie Crooks
    Christopher Herd
    Craig Hill
    Bradley Lewis
    Isaac Nehemie
    Daniel O’Brien
    Enda Stevens
    Thomas Strain
    Ron Vlaar
    Courtney Wildin

    Burnley

    Cameron Howieson
    Steven Reid
    Ross Wallace

    Chelsea

    Didier Drogba

    Crystal Palace

    Foluwashola Ameobi
    Michael Chambers
    Kyle De Silva
    Stephen Dobbie
    Owen Garvan
    Brede Hangeland
    Lewis Price
    Peter Ramage
    Ghassimu Sow
    Jerome Thomas

    Everton

    Antolín Alcaraz
    Sylvain Distin
    George Green
    Curtis Langton
    John Lundstram
    Ben McLaughlin

    Hull City

    Joseph Cracknell
    Leon Dawson
    Joseph Dudgeon
    Maynor Figueroa
    Stephen Harper
    John Mahon
    Jonathon Margetts
    Eoghan McCawl
    Paul McShane
    Mark Oxley
    Liam Rosenior
    Yannick Sagbo
    Sam Topliss

    Leicester City

    Zoumana Bakayogo
    Marcel Barrington
    Adam Dawson
    Paul Gallagher
    Kieran Kennedy
    Conrad Logan
    Herve Pepe-Ngoma
    Louis Rowley
    Gary Taylor-Fletcher
    Matthew Upson

    Liverpool

    Steven Gerrard
    Glen Johnson
    Brad Jones
    Jordan Lussey
    Marc Pelosi

    Emirates Marketing Project

    Adam Drury
    John Guidetti
    Frank Lampard
    Greg Leigh
    Dominic Oduro
    Micah Richards

    Manchester United

    Benjamin Amos
    Tom Cleverley
    Callum Evans
    Ryan McConnell
    Thomas Thorpe

    Newcastle United

    Jak lnwick
    Adam Campbell
    Jonás Gutierrez
    Remie Streete
    Ryan Taylor

    QPR

    Bruno Andrade
    Joey Barton
    Richard Dunne
    Rio Ferdinand
    Jordan Gibbons
    Karl Henry
    Aaron Lennox
    Brian Murphy
    Jamie Sendles-White
    Shaun Wright-Phillips
    Bobby Zamora

    Southampton

    Artur Boruc
    Cody Cropper
    Jos Hooiveld
    Chris Johns
    Omar Rowe
    Jake Sinclair

    Stoke City

    Oluwatomisin Adeloye
    James Alabi
    Sam Coulson
    Alex Grant
    Wilson Palacios
    Robbie Parry
    Nathan Ricketts-Hopkinson
    Thomas Sorensen
    Adam Thomas
    Charlie Ward
    Elliot Wheeler
    Andrew Wilkinson

    Sunderland

    Wes Brown
    Peter Burke
    Andrew Cartwright
    Joel Dixon
    Tom McNamee
    Anthony Reveillere

    Swansea City

    Thomas Atyeo
    David Cornell
    Rory Donnelly
    Corey Francis
    Giancarlo Gallifuoco
    Joseph Jones
    Kurtis March
    Curtis Obeng
    Gareth Owen
    Scott Tanrooster
    Alan Tate
    Gerhard Tremmel

    Tottenham Hotspur

    Jordan Archer
    Cristian Ceballos
    Brad Friedel
    Bongani Khumalo
    Aaron McEneff
    Alexander McQueen
    Jonathan Miles

    West Bromwich Albion

    Wesley Atkinson
    Christopher Baird
    Aaron Birch
    Jason Davidson
    Bradley Garmston
    Alexander Jones
    Gareth McAuley
    Youssouf Mulumbu
    Mani O’Sullivan

    West Ham United

    Kieran Bywater
    Carlton Cole
    Nenê
    Guy Demel
    Juusi Jaaskelainen
    Sean Maguire
    Paul McCallum
    Daniel Potts

    http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/...clubs-submit-retained-and-released-lists.html
     
  9. richie_spur

    richie_spur Paul Moran

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    Does this not leave us a little light on backup Goalies?
     
  10. Gutter Boy

    Gutter Boy Tim Sherwood

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    3 is fine. McGee is supposed to be good too.

    We also have 3 GKs in the academy - Voss, Glover and McDermott
     
  11. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Chris Perry

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    Shouldn't we be able to call in an emergency keeper as well, if both Lloris and Vorm are injured? I seem to remember City doing that twice. So yeah, no big shakes.
     
  12. Mumorn

    Mumorn Vic Buckingham

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    Mulumbu would be a good free for someone.
     
  13. monkeybarry

    monkeybarry Dean Richards

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    Taarabt is going to Benfica?!

    That man has an incredible agent.
     
  14. Roland Beurre

    Roland Beurre John Scales

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    We should sign Aaron Lennox - save a few bob on recycled team shirts and lettering.
     
  15. Armchair Expert

    Armchair Expert Simon Davies

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    Doesn't this leave us a little short of Bong, more to the point.
     
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    LutonSpurs Niko Kranjcar

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    It would be a sweet dream.
     
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  17. Jordinho

    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    While we're waiting for the full list of retained players, Sunderland have confirmed Steven Fletcher, Wes Brown, Danny Graham and Steve Harper will all leave the club. Kolo Toure looks set for a Liverpool exit as well.
     
  18. AdamB

    AdamB Cecil Poynton

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    If only old Saggy Face was in management now....he'd snap most of them up
     
  19. parklane1

    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    Good boys never a moments trouble, good family men.
     
  20. galeforce

    galeforce Tony Galvin

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    always been a fan of Fletcher
     

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