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Moussa Sissoko

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Jordinho, 31 Aug 2016.

  1. Modric THFC

    Modric THFC Chris Perry

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    It's nothing to do with people's online reputation. How can you watch the game see attack after attack break down at Sissoko's feet and accept it.

    "It's not his game." He's not a centre half. He doesn't play as a defensively midfielder. His role to burst forward with the ball.

    He created an opportunity initially by running with it but instead of making a delivery, he looks around, pretends no one is home and leaves an annoying little missed delivery card in the letterbox. The only way to reliably get the ball off him is to come to him waving the card so he can make his safe 5 yard pass. It's either that or he lobs it randomly in the garden somewhere.

    And the tired agrument is the "Poch knows" flimflam. If Poch really rated him he wouldn't have bought two players to do his job better than him in Ndombele and Lo Celso
     
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  2. Roland Beurre

    Roland Beurre Erik Edman

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    The commentator on Sky said Spurs were about to take Ndombele off just before he scored the goal. I have no idea whether that was the case.

    Sissoko's miss looked bad but it was from an angle so I would cut him some slack; the shooter only has to be a few degrees out with his aim and it can easily end up going out for a throw.

    On the other hand, the one goal he has scored for Spurs should've been a simple tap-in but he still scuffed it, if memory serves. He seems more confident in his shooting when he pushes it past a player and then runs on to it to take a shot. Getting the ball out of his feet from a standing start so he can get a shot away is definitely not his forte.

    I quite like Modric's "lumbering centre-half goes on a dribble" analogy. FWIW, Sissoko reminds me a bit of Paul Stewart when he switched to midfield; his role was to kick a few people, knock a few skittles over, get the ball and pass it to Gazza or whoever.
     
  3. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Vedran Corluka

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    He was a starter last season out of desperation because we had no one else to play in midfield. He won't be a consistent starter this season.

    I'm not sure why you're getting frustrated. I've acknowledged the assist. It was Sissoko doing what he does best, powering past a couple of players and having a simple pass on. As Scara said, any professional footballer could have made the pass. Not every pro footballer could have gotten into the position Sissoko did but that was down to physicality and that's all he really brings to the party.

    There was half a dozen particularly pathetic touches and very few completed passes that I wouldn't have fancied making myself.
     
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  4. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Vedran Corluka

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    Yours is a decent post but regarding the bolded bit, I give to the travesty of an effort at Anfield last year. He's just not very good near goal. On that occasion, people said "you can't expect him to score, that's not his game". Bollox it's not. I expect anyone who isn't a goalkeeper to test Allison at the very least in that position.
     
  5. Legohamster

    Legohamster Steffen Iversen

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    He could have had 3/4 assists and a goal if he had any form of composure, he does not.

    He is one of the reasons (not the only) we struggle to break down banked defences.
     
  6. Legohamster

    Legohamster Steffen Iversen

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    He was a bit part player the season before, which most have said should be his role.

    Last season we recorded 13 defeats in the league, scored the least amount of goals and conceded the most since Mopo has been here.

    Is that down to him alone? No

    He is a part of it.
     
  7. Maltese Falcon

    Maltese Falcon Niko Kranjcar

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    and of course, your exhaltedness is always right... seeing as you have managed in two countries, achieved Champions League finishes on successive seasons and took teams to the Champions League final.

    Why were worried about Poch leaving had we won the CL final, when we had the world renowned Scaramanga ready to step in, with his world acclaimed knowledge of football coaching....
     
  8. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    What was wrong in the first half, and whose fault do you think it was?
     
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  9. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Vedran Corluka

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    Ah here. The answer can't always be "well it's right because Poch says so". If so, there's no point having a message board, we all just agree with whatever Poch decides. I'm sure there is no possible way we could have been better than Villa in the first half yesterday so...

    Although I will agree, Scara is a smug, know it all clam. :)
     
  10. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Vedran Corluka

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    He’s actually one of the reasons we break down tight defences too.
     
  11. milo

    milo Jürgen Klinsmann Staff Member

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    He's one of the poorest players in our squad and is likely to find himself on the bench once the new players are settled.

    Poch did a great job finding a role for him last season but let's be honest, it was forced on us and he wouldn't have had a starting place in any other Poch side during his time with us.
     
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  12. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Vedran Corluka

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    The revisionism in this thread is slightly awkward...he’s been starting for us for 2 seasons now, and helped us win huge games on the way to a CL final. ‘Finding him a role last season’ :ross:

    He’s going to be on the pitch for plenty of minutes this season too.
     
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  13. Legohamster

    Legohamster Steffen Iversen

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    17/18 season he started league 15 games.

    You think if Dembele/Alli/Son/Wanyama had been fit/here he would have got anywhere near the starts he did?
     
  14. milo

    milo Jürgen Klinsmann Staff Member

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    It's not revisionism to say that he is a poor footballer, people have been saying the same thing throughout his time with us.

    He's a great athlete and was useful last season breaking lines but all too frequently he fails to use the ball intelligently once he has got past an opponent. His range of passing is poor which is a massive disadvantage in a possession side. The only position that he has looked comfortable for us is as a ball carrier in central midfield which is what Ndombele will be doing this season.

    I agree that he will get games though and I am happy with him as a squad player. I just see him filling in unless he manages to become first choice RB/RWB.
     
  15. ShipOfTheseus

    ShipOfTheseus Kasey Keller

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    He’s never looked comfortable as any kind of right winger so that conversion doesn’t sound plausible. Hope he still gets a fair number of games doing precisely what he does best.
     
  16. metalgear

    metalgear Jimmy McCormick

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    He's been a great physical presence and forward force. He will keep his place until someone else can do that for us.

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  17. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    Dembele, Dier and Winks were all crocked last season.

    Sissoko actually has two things going for him; his physicality and the fact that he never gets injured.
     
  18. milo

    milo Jürgen Klinsmann Staff Member

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    The only reason I say that is because it looks the biggest gap in the first team at the moment and marauding runs from deep is what he does best. I am not too worried about end product from full backs as long as they occupy a man and play the ball to a team mate.

    As things stand, I would agree that he is most likely to be Ndombele's understudy.
     
  19. milo

    milo Jürgen Klinsmann Staff Member

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    That player was playing along side him yesterday. Once Son and Dele are back, Lo Celso is integrated and if Eriksen stays, the team is going to look very different. It is hard to see a starting place for Sissoko if everyone is available.
     
  20. BrainOfLevy

    BrainOfLevy Vedran Corluka

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    It really is. It’s a tired, boring trope. He isn’t the best footballer we have, but his ability is exaggerated to a negative extreme.

    The thing about having someone like him in a ‘possession side’ is that it makes us more difficult to counter. To have a team full of Winks’s would mean that it’s easier to break our lines because if we don’t play the perfect football, the opposition will get through. The amount of times Sissoko shuts down an attack by using his physicality to cover more space than anyone else could is actually quite large. Not to mention his tactical discipline and fitness, which enable him to stop these things happening before they occur. By virtue of his physicality, we can actually be more expansive and more unpredictable.

    He’s also clocked up plenty of assists, and plenty of good performances in important games for us to the point that we should be long since past the ‘he’s not a footballer’ rubbish. I think with everyone else fit, he’s N’Dombele’s understudy. But there’s two things that should just be done once and for all. #1 is that he doesn’t use the ball well or is incapable of doing so. #2 is that his value to the team almost doesn’t count because his exceptional strengths are physical and tactical.
     
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