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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

Discussion in 'Classic Threads' started by DubaiSpur, 27 May 2014.

  1. billyiddo

    billyiddo Willie Hall Staff Member

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    I'd say it's the next hurdle he needs to overcome as a manager - he has overcome several so far during his time with us and given time I expect him to find the solution here too
     
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    DubaiSpur Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    Yes. Yes he did. And what I find amusing is that he can brilliantly suss out the weaknesses of Antonio Conte's set-up (focusing on Alli ghosting in behind Moses and Azpilicueta to win headers), but gets shown up against Klopp repeatedly. :p
     
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    Modric THFC Chris Perry

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    Out away record is shocking this season. 4 away wins in the league.
    Poch has 1 away win against the current top 6 in his 3 seasons at the club.

    You really have to fear whats gonna happen next season without the WHL atmosphere.
    I think we'll struggle next season and the one after.

    If we werent moving this would be the time to get stronger players to help our first XI and kick on.
    But instead we are gonna struggle moving grounds.
     
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  4. braineclipse

    braineclipse Paul Stewart

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    Not just a question of sample size then it's it?
     
  5. billyiddo

    billyiddo Willie Hall Staff Member

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    Well I was talking about it as a part of our record away to the top sides rather than just our record in the two games v Liverpool and City
     
  6. indianspur

    indianspur Guest

    Nice guy doing a great job at Spurs.

    Is he a winner though? Does he have the ruthlessness, the intelligence, to outfox opponents in big moments/games that matter.
     
  7. StephenH

    StephenH Jimmy Cantrell

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    Great question, today maybe not the best time to answer.
     
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  8. Raziel

    Raziel Johnny Morrison

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    Being polite, that is a overly simplistic way of looking at things ..

    Let me answer your question another way, put Aquero or Bale or DeBruyne in this side, and he would be a "winner"

    Perhaps you will see the "math" behind my answer.
     
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  9. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    None of whom would press to Poch's liking. They'd all be benched for Winks, Janssen and Son within the week. ;)
     
  10. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Chris Perry

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    Have to agree, but nobody's perfect. And we're still second. COYS.
     
  11. braineclipse

    braineclipse Paul Stewart

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    For me, if someone was benched for Winks, it would be a good move anyway.
     
  12. Hashegotthesackyet?

    Hashegotthesackyet? Pascal Chimbonda

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    Can't believe he's being scrutinised to be honest.
    Bad day at the office, but keep in perspective please, in the grand scheme of things..
     
  13. StephenH

    StephenH Jimmy Cantrell

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    Poch has done well!
    But you cannot work miracles with such a poor bench/second string!
     
  14. LCLC

    LCLC Richard Gough

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    After today winks deserves to start next prem game. Dembele was awful.

    For me poch should have brought him on at HT And I would have started with him to beef up our midfield 3 and allow dembele to cover that left hand side. Today poch picked the wrong side and we got what we deserved. Saying the performance and the lack of any fight in the second half was just unacceptable
     
  15. billyiddo

    billyiddo Willie Hall Staff Member

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    Does this game matter any more than the ones in which we have beaten rivals? City/Chelsea/Arsenal have been defeated by us under Pochettino, convincingly so as well - can't expect it every time
     
  16. indianspur

    indianspur Guest

    If we had Bale or Debruyne or Aguero we still would have been blown away by Liverpool tonight

    The tactics were just wrong. Away from home against our top 4 rivals we most of the time are never at the races. The same in cup games domestically and in europe.

    He had a whole week to prepare the team to face Liverpool. It's been shown clearly the way to play them is to sit deep, deny them space behind and hit them on the break. It's not rocket science.

    I don't want to knock him as he is doing a grand job. It's just that next step he needs to take. Chelsea at home where he went with a formation and tactics to outfox Conte was the first time I've seen Poch adapt his ways out of respect for the opposition. I thought wow he is maturing but then we get this tonight which was pathetic on so many
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    With the players we now have it will be disappointing if we don't win a trophy or two and have a few more seasons of CL football. To do that though Poch needs to get his tactics right in the big games.
     
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  17. billyiddo

    billyiddo Willie Hall Staff Member

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    That's just not true - away to Chelsea we drew last season and lost 2-1 in a close game this year, away to Arsenal we haven't been out played, away to City we have won convincinly and drawn rather fortunately and last season were unlucky to lose to United on the season opener (didn't see this seasons game, but score doesn't suggest we were that out of the game) Liverpool we seem to struggle against admittedly but you're over egging things by saying we are never at the races away to our rivals - it's quite rare that we turn in performances like this evening and are usually well in the game even if we more often than not come up short
     
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    Robspur12 Dean Richards

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    He does - at home. You do realise that this is only his 3rd defeat all season in the PL . You do realise we are still second? You do realise that klopp is unbeaten against Wenger, Mourinho, Conte and Guardiola this season, having beaten 2 on their home patch. Today was a very bad day at the office but it's small time for fans to come out and question the guy's entire philosophy based on this result.
     
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    Robspur12 Dean Richards

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    Klopp is the only manager who has repeatedly bettered Poch. Even then this is his first win in 4 prem games against Poch. I am sure Poch will figure it out. But if the solution was so simple to beating Klopp's Liverpool then perhaps the likes of Wenger, Conte, Mourinho and Guardiola would have figured it out already.
     
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  20. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Young-Pyo Lee

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    Agreed. And the bench is particularly weak without Jan, Danny and Erik in the starting eleven.


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