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FIFA: Destroying Football Since 1904

Discussion in 'General Football' started by Robbo, 8 Jan 2014.

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  1. scaramanga

    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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    Bullet Christian Ziege

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    They're all in on it.
    Emirs, Princes, Kings, Heads of State, The President of the USA, celebrities... everyone has their dirty hands in the filth pot, right up to the elbow.
     
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    Jordinho John White Staff Member

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    The Confederations Cup is no more due to a lack of interest from sponsors. Surprise, surprise, FIFA love money. Instead we will get a revamped (ie. bloated) Club World Cup in the summer every four years starting in 2021.
     
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    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    Be honest the Confederations Cup was always going that way. No shock.
     
  5. galeforce

    galeforce Tony Galvin

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    It was brick, no great loss.
     
  6. Robbo

    Robbo Steve Carr

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    I'm sure they would've kept it going if there were money to be made.
     
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    parklane1 Andy Thompson

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    Is the right answer.
     
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    galeforce Tony Galvin

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    expanded club World Cup could be really good, if they weed out the lesser teams, make it the best of SA and Europe
     
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    LemonadeMoney Frederic Kanoute

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    jts1882 Mitchell Thomas

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    The Confederations Cup was always a joke tournament, more a world cup test event, but held in a good time slot. The Intercontinental Cup and Club World Club were charity shield/supercup level events held at a bad time and more of a nuisance than a serious trophy.

    A world cup for clubs in the summer could be far more interesting. 2021 is an off year from the World Cup, European Championships and Copa America. Given the Copa America seems to be moving to even years (2024 is the next after 2019) this opens the way for the club tournament to be every two years. Four years is too long for the club cycle as clubs change players too often.

    With every two years you could probably get most of the semi-finalists of the Champions League and Copa Libertadores over the two years and top it up to 16 teams from the other federations.
     
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    galeforce Tony Galvin

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    I like it, would give us a summer tournament every year too
     
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    StephenH Tom Huddlestone

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    IF they weed is the billion dollar question.

    Why some keep banging on about the governing bodies trying maximise income is beyond me.
    It how all sport today and especially football survives and prospers.
     
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    jts1882 Mitchell Thomas

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    Champions League

    2018: Real, Bayern, Roma, Liverpool
    2017: Real, Juventus, Atletico, Monaco
    2016: Real, Atletico, Bayern, City
    2015: Barcelona, Juventus, Real, Bayern
    2014: Real, Atletico, Bayern, Chelsea

    Over four years (2014-18) we have four different finalists. Over two years we have 7, 6, 6 and 7 semi-finalists. I thought there would be more overlap in the latter. Could 6-7 European teams be included in a 16 team tournament? On quality, yes; on TV money, yes; on FIFA politics, no. Which wins, money or politics?

    Copa Libertadores

    2017: Gremio, Lanus, Barcelona, River Plate
    2016: Atl├ętico Nacional, Indepentiente, Sao Paulo, Boca Juniors
    2015: River Plate, UANL, Guarani, Internacional
    2014: San Lorenzo, Club Nacional, Bolivar, Defensor Sporting

    Far less overlap, with only River Plate makes the semi-finals twice in four years. So four or eight teams are easy to select.
     
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    r-u-s-x Ruel Fox

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    Does anyone watch the world club cup? I know its a big thing for the SA and the European team in it but other than that its a bit of a joke isn't it? Extending it wont make it less of a joke, its getting more and more irrelevant as the European teams keep getting richer (comparatively). This is also why there is so much more variation in the Copa Lib as any team who wins it has all their good players purchased by European clubs.

    The extended WC is likely to give more teams to Africa / Asia rather than Europe as we are overrepresented (based upon number of countries in the region) already. There had been a push to give some of ours to other federations and this is a compromise. I think open qualifications are the way forwards anyway as long as we can exclude Australia & New Zeeland (wont miss them).
     
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    Bullet Christian Ziege

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    To be honest I have no idea what the Confederations Cup is/was

    And the World Club Cup thingy is just rubbish, such a non-event... the Champions League winner vs the South America winner... whoopee doo
     
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    Rorschach Erik Thorstvedt

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    The winners menatiliy trophy is the big one
     
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    nayenezgani Gerry Armstrong

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    scaramanga Tommy Harmer Staff Member

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