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Cristian Romero

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by AdamB, 6 Aug 2021.

  1. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Ok, but why would you play Dier over him, based on what little you have seen of him (and the amount you've seen of Dier)?
     
  2. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    Because Dier so far this season has played very well
    Players shouldn’t be dropped unless they play poorly
    Dele has been
    Tanguy should be next game on the basis of villa (he won’t be though)
     
  3. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Rafael Van Der Vaart

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    It really reads that we should head that way.

    All players playing in roles that suit. And flexibility with options to swap players in/out and a few players able to cover more than one position.
     
  4. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Fair enough.
     
  5. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    That’s why I like it
    It’s fluid too
    Look at how Chelsea play it and they do it with some inexperienced players combined with very experienced ones, but in an unfamiliar system they make it work through coaching and of course, quality players
     
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  6. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    You honestly think we have the players to play the Tuchel system at Chelski? I like the sound of that, but then my head keeps saying 'hold your horses' lol...
     
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  7. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    100%
    They are perfectly suited to it
    It’s 3-4-2-1 the way they play it but we would play it more 3-4-3 but we have Lacey wide players on the left wing back side
    More functional players on the right
    It also covers for our lack of real options up top
     
  8. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Interesting. I think Poch had worked out an antidote to Conte's 3-4-3 in that 16-17 season but it was too late to catch them sadly: a 3-4-2-1 where we ended up outnumbering them in the middle and forcing them back with our mix of drive AND defensive capability on our the wings compared to theirs. Obviously they had more options on the bench too...

    It's interesting that the formation now covers for our lack of options up front but then if anything it punished ours (i.e. Son usually on the bench so that Kane, Alli and Eriksen could play)
     
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  9. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    Since son has been here dele has got gradually less and less affective
     
  10. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Mitchell Thomas

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    Absolutely. I answered your question. Foyth under Poch didn't play many games at CB but he showed some promise. Excellent on the ball, skillful, right footed, smaller build than your stereotypical CB, capable of good passing, interceptions. The sample size of appearances isn't high but I'd argue there's more similarities there than Sanchez, Verts etc. For what it's worth I think Foyth (and Romero) are good players. Foyth wasn't given enough of a chance at Spurs but has excelled in Spain (most notably at RB).
     
  11. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Did they not start playing for the club around the same time?
    IIRC they instantly had great chemistry together on the field and of course Dele was immediately a mainstay of the team whilst Son had to bide his time before becoming a regular...
     
  12. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Hmm, ok. I take those points. I thought Foyth took more risks given his build and lack of pace. He might become a much better RB than CB over time, or at least someone who can easily slot in on the right sided positions of a flat back four or a back 3...

    I'd say Romero looks much more assured overall, but i do se where you're coming from..
     
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  13. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    Nah

    it was dele, eriksen, Kane and Chadli
    Son came in though to play on the left which was deles side
    We still had the issue on the bight as we had lamela and then Lucas to play there
     
  14. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Paul Walsh

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    Surely it was Chadli on the left and not Dele, no?
     
  15. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    Nah dele
    Dele doesn’t play on the right or we would be sorted now wouldn’t we
    But dele did play central and eriksen left too
    They were very fluid
     
  16. FatBloke

    FatBloke Allan Nielsen

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    IIRC, Chadli always played on the left, usually with Dele in the middle and Eriksen out right. As you say, it was fairly fluid between Dele and Eriksen, but I'm sure Chadli was always left.
     
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    DubaiSpur Paul Walsh

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    At the club at the moment? Dier, but as I mentioned, he's a suboptimal solution.

    The ideal 'cat' to partner Romero would be the following -

    a) left-footed or is used to playing on the left;
    b) excellent at spreading play and long passes;
    c) a good organizer;
    d) good in the air;
    e) reasonably mobile; and
    f) comfortable drifting out to the flank if necessary (to cover for Reguilon).

    The few players who fit *all* those categories (Alessandro Bastoni, Lucas Hernandez, Presnel Kimpembe, Mario Hermoso, Laporte) are out of our reach. A level below are players like Sven Botman and Pau Torres, but they have their own issues - Pau is a bit physically underwhelming for his size and has looked shaky on international duty, Botman is slow and a bit immobile. A further level below would be players like Clement Lenglet (coming off a bad year, confidence a bit shaky), Evan N'dingdonga (seems better in a three than a two), Benoit Badashile (only 20) and Marcos Senesi (coming from the Netherlands, always a bit of a risk).

    So, on the market, if we were to look for a 'cat' to partner Romero, we'd have to make compromises on some of those ideal qualities. Close to the top of my list, though (if not at the top of it), would be Edmond Tapsoba - while not left-footed, he's used to playing on the left of the back line for Leverkusen, is a truly magnificent passer (his pass progression stats are routinely comparable to advanced midfielders), and routinely wins his defensive duels in the box and uses his magnificent pace to cover his defensive partners.

    He's not the type to constantly communicate and organize from what I've seen, but of all the options out there, he's probably my top, barely-gettable pick.
     
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  18. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Jack L. Jones

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    I’ve never seen Badashile play but a few guys on here have and rate him very highly
     
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    DubaiSpur Paul Walsh

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    Oh, one other barely possible option I'd be interested in considering is Alessio Romagnoli, whose contract at Milan is expiring this year. He's 26, and while he hasn't quite achieved the world-class potential he had earlier in his career, he's still a damn good back-foot, 'cat'-like defender - excellent distribution, good anticipation, good positioning, good in the air, and a leader (captain at Milan). He hasn't played much at Milan due to his contract situation, Tomori's form, and in part because his lack of mobility is a bit of a hindrance in Pioli's high-pressing system. But the bigger problem with him is that Mino Raiola is his agent, meaning we would be getting him in the bargain if we did make a play for him. But worth considering, imo.
     
  20. braineclipse

    braineclipse Gary Stevens

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    I agree on Dier.

    Romero is still fairly inexperienced and new to the club and league. I think there's a value in playing a more experienced player like Dier over Rodon.

    Dier has done well and his partnership with Romero shows promise. So we stick with that.
     

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