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Which is what Levy says too. Get the new revenue streams in place first.
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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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Which is what Levy says too. Get the new revenue streams in place first.
You didn't buy anyone in the summer and you're hinting you may not sign anyone now, but you're in the title race, does that show the strength of your coaching ability and the strength of your squad?
I think I need to be honest. The honesty is the most important thing. Of course the pressure came from ourselves. I want to win the Premier League. The players, Jesus [Perez - his assistant], want to win the Premier League or Champions League or a trophy. It’s our own pressure or stress that we try to put in to win.
But some clubs are in a different project. Some clubs it’s only about winning. If they sign a manager it’s about winning titles, winning the Premier League or to be in the top four.
But for us when we arrived at Tottenham it was completely different. The objective was different. Of course now after nearly five years the club is on another level than five years ago, but how we operate in four or five years didn’t change. That is the point when sometimes people talk about winning titles. One thing is to reduce the gap with the top four, to be competitive, to create a team capable of fighting with the big sides. But if after we want to win titles we need to operate in a different way.
At the moment we operate in the same way as we operated in five years ago when we arrived. Of course, maybe we can win some titles but it’s going to be a tough job to do because in that situation every club in the last five years was improving a lot.
The other day I saw a stat that in the last 10 years in England and in Europe how the teams were spending money, and I think we were on the bottom, in England and Europe. Of course we’re doing a fantastic job but if we want to be real contenders we need to operate in a different way in the future. At the moment it’s fantastic, so far so good, but we’ll see if it’s enough to challenge and be consistent in the next five years operating in that way, if we’re capable to fight with the big sides in the same way that we’ve fought in the last four or five years.
Is there pressure on you or the players to win something this year?
The problem is so dangerous about what the people perceive and what the reality is. We live in the reality here. If I am in League Two or non league and I face teams like Tottenham or Chelsea or United or City, always in my mind is about winning. Sure, that I am going to think that we can beat them. We are in Tottenham in a project that today is not only win, it is maybe…okay I don’t want to say a percentage but it is about to win, but it is about to care about the financial side. It is about to build the new stadium to help to do or to finish the project, that it is a project that is going to be a massive legacy for the club, for the fans, for the players in the future, for the new coaching staff, manager. It is going to be fantastic to have this possibility to work here in those facilities. It is amazing.
But when you are in charge like a coach or a manager, like what happened with Arsene Wenger, that they were building the new stadium but at the same moment you have a lot of limitations and the people demand you to win but you don’t have the same tools to fight with other clubs. Of course it is going to be fantastic, but the most important thing that I accept that challenge when Daniel Levy called me to offer a contract here. He was clear - him and Joe Lewis. And they say to me on this - and this guy was in front (points at Jesus Perez) - they said: ‘Mauricio, you need to prepare and to help the club to arrive to the new stadium.
When we finish the new stadium, in the first season on the new stadium, [we need] to have a team that can finish in the top four in the season after.’ We are in advance, no? That is why sometimes I laugh when the people say we need to win a trophy. Yes, but look at the project - how we are in advance. And that is true and you can ask Joe Lewis or Daniel Levy or ask Jesus. That is what they say to me. But we are so ambitious and we have the ambition to win. Of course, we want to win and be competitive and that it is in the way we are now. But I accept that challenge. But now we cannot say the club is in a position that is all bad.
I think we are in an amazing position. The club is finishing the new stadium, one of the best stadiums in the world. The team is so competitive that we are involved for the third season in a row in the Champions League, playing the last year and a half in Wembley away from home. What more? Of course win and I want to win tomorrow. I want to win Sunday. I want to win, yes of course. But we will see if we can do something important.
Do you think Tottenham will ever have the resources to compete with Emirates Marketing Project and Man United over a long period of time?
I am not the same as I was five years ago and neither are the players. Always you need to refresh the squad. You need to add quality. Always you know. I am not the same five years ago as I am now.
Sometimes you need to refresh and all the team are trying to improve. Of course you cannot keep the same squad for five years. It’s going to be difficult to find the motivation.
Some players after five years have the same desire to work with you like the first day. Some players after one season they need a different challenge, different voice. They need to move. All this situation we cannot explain properly because my English isn’t so good.
That is why it’s a fantastic thing that we didn’t sign but keep the squad motivated. 95 per cent of the squad is happy, accept the rules and are happy with us. You can feel that. We will see if we can stay for a long long way like this. I think not but in football anything can happen.
I think I need to be honest. The honesty is the most important thing. Of course the pressure came from ourselves. I want to win the Premier League. The players, Jesus [Perez - his assistant], want to win the Premier League or Champions League or a trophy. It’s our own pressure or stress that we try to put in to win.
But some clubs are in a different project. Some clubs it’s only about winning. If they sign a manager it’s about winning titles, winning the Premier League or to be in the top four.
But for us when we arrived at Tottenham it was completely different. The objective was different. Of course now after nearly five years the club is on another level than five years ago, but how we operate in four or five years didn’t change. That is the point when sometimes people talk about winning titles. One thing is to reduce the gap with the top four, to be competitive, to create a team capable of fighting with the big sides. But if after we want to win titles we need to operate in a different way.
At the moment we operate in the same way as we operated in five years ago when we arrived. Of course, maybe we can win some titles but it’s going to be a tough job to do because in that situation every club in the last five years was improving a lot.
The other day I saw a stat that in the last 10 years in England and in Europe how the teams were spending money, and I think we were on the bottom, in England and Europe. Of course we’re doing a fantastic job but if we want to be real contenders we need to operate in a different way in the future. At the moment it’s fantastic, so far so good, but we’ll see if it’s enough to challenge and be consistent in the next five years operating in that way, if we’re capable to fight with the big sides in the same way that we’ve fought in the last four or five years.
Is there pressure on you or the players to win something this year?
The problem is so dangerous about what the people perceive and what the reality is. We live in the reality here. If I am in League Two or non league and I face teams like Tottenham or Chelsea or United or City, always in my mind is about winning. Sure, that I am going to think that we can beat them. We are in Tottenham in a project that today is not only win, it is maybe…okay I don’t want to say a percentage but it is about to win, but it is about to care about the financial side. It is about to build the new stadium to help to do or to finish the project, that it is a project that is going to be a massive legacy for the club, for the fans, for the players in the future, for the new coaching staff, manager. It is going to be fantastic to have this possibility to work here in those facilities. It is amazing.
But when you are in charge like a coach or a manager, like what happened with Arsene Wenger, that they were building the new stadium but at the same moment you have a lot of limitations and the people demand you to win but you don’t have the same tools to fight with other clubs. Of course it is going to be fantastic, but the most important thing that I accept that challenge when Daniel Levy called me to offer a contract here. He was clear - him and Joe Lewis. And they say to me on this - and this guy was in front (points at Jesus Perez) - they said: ‘Mauricio, you need to prepare and to help the club to arrive to the new stadium.
When we finish the new stadium, in the first season on the new stadium, [we need] to have a team that can finish in the top four in the season after.’ We are in advance, no? That is why sometimes I laugh when the people say we need to win a trophy. Yes, but look at the project - how we are in advance. And that is true and you can ask Joe Lewis or Daniel Levy or ask Jesus. That is what they say to me. But we are so ambitious and we have the ambition to win. Of course, we want to win and be competitive and that it is in the way we are now. But I accept that challenge. But now we cannot say the club is in a position that is all bad.
I think we are in an amazing position. The club is finishing the new stadium, one of the best stadiums in the world. The team is so competitive that we are involved for the third season in a row in the Champions League, playing the last year and a half in Wembley away from home. What more? Of course win and I want to win tomorrow. I want to win Sunday. I want to win, yes of course. But we will see if we can do something important.
Do you think Tottenham will ever have the resources to compete with Emirates Marketing Project and Man United over a long period of time?
I am not the same as I was five years ago and neither are the players. Always you need to refresh the squad. You need to add quality. Always you know. I am not the same five years ago as I am now.
Sometimes you need to refresh and all the team are trying to improve. Of course you cannot keep the same squad for five years. It’s going to be difficult to find the motivation.
Some players after five years have the same desire to work with you like the first day. Some players after one season they need a different challenge, different voice. They need to move. All this situation we cannot explain properly because my English isn’t so good.
That is why it’s a fantastic thing that we didn’t sign but keep the squad motivated. 95 per cent of the squad is happy, accept the rules and are happy with us. You can feel that. We will see if we can stay for a long long way like this. I think not but in football anything can happen.
parklane1
Vic Buckingham
Does not compute for the knee tremblers.
^ these are the surrounding questions/responses from the presser that the tweet on the previous page was taken from - as usual single quotes viewed on their own don't always read the same when viewed in a wider context.
He sounds (as he always has imo) like someone who knows full well what the clubs financial position is in relation to our rivals and, contrary to what some will have you believe, has not been stitched by Levy and the board over a lack of backing.
Though it's fair to say he clearly recognizes that in order to maintain a consistent level of challenging at the top for titles regularly that you need money to spend
He sounds (as he always has imo) like someone who knows full well what the clubs financial position is in relation to our rivals and, contrary to what some will have you believe, has not been stitched by Levy and the board over a lack of backing.
Though it's fair to say he clearly recognizes that in order to maintain a consistent level of challenging at the top for titles regularly that you need money to spend
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46787600
Mauricio Pochettino says he hopes to be Tottenham boss for 20 years and perhaps finish his career with the club.
The 46-year-old Argentine has guided Spurs to fifth, third, second and third in his four completed league seasons since joining from Southampton in 2014.
"I hope, or I wish to be here 20 years, and decide to leave or to finish my career here," said Pochettino.
"I am so focused here, and want to help the club to achieve what the club want to be in history."
He added: "It would be fantastic. I am so happy to be here. I am so happy to work in that pressure. Why not?"
Pochettino hopes to emulate the longevity of Arsene Wenger, who was manager of north London rivals Arsenal for 22 years before leaving at the end of last season.
The Argentine said: "But I don't know because I need to ask [Wenger] one day, if I have the possibility, if he is so happy in the way that he finished. What I saw from my point of view, it was so unfair how the people treated him."
YESSSSS Poch! That’s more like it!
Mauricio Pochettino says he hopes to be Tottenham boss for 20 years and perhaps finish his career with the club.
The 46-year-old Argentine has guided Spurs to fifth, third, second and third in his four completed league seasons since joining from Southampton in 2014.
"I hope, or I wish to be here 20 years, and decide to leave or to finish my career here," said Pochettino.
"I am so focused here, and want to help the club to achieve what the club want to be in history."
He added: "It would be fantastic. I am so happy to be here. I am so happy to work in that pressure. Why not?"
Pochettino hopes to emulate the longevity of Arsene Wenger, who was manager of north London rivals Arsenal for 22 years before leaving at the end of last season.
The Argentine said: "But I don't know because I need to ask [Wenger] one day, if I have the possibility, if he is so happy in the way that he finished. What I saw from my point of view, it was so unfair how the people treated him."
YESSSSS Poch! That’s more like it!
Bullet
Luka Modric
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
And yet some hack at The Times has managed to spin those words into this back page article
HILARIOUS!!
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
I also find it so hilarious how people refuse to see what Poch says about the ambitions he himself has as a coach.
We know that the Gutter Press like to twist his words into a negative headline for us - eg the Times headline above lol - but equally it seems some react to those who say "he is saying if we want to go for the big trophies we have to act and operate like we mean it, including in the transfer market" like we are in the same boat as the likes of the Times.
We have a coach here who is VERY ambitious, VERY professional and is certainly the best COACH the club has had in 30, maybe 40 years and it would be inexplicable - but yet perhaps typical - if the club do not grasp the opportunity to use this fantastic coach and manager to put the club back in the higher echelons of the sport.
This DOES mean backing him in the transfer market. It DOES mean changing how we operate in it. It does NOT mean not signing anyone. It also DOES NOT mean signing anyone for the sake of it - which i believe we have sometimes done recently.
It's quite amazing how polarising certain discussion points now seems to be becoming on here, it reminds me of Gooners during the slow Wenger/Kroenke decline years, whereby anyone who wasn't totally 'Wenger In' - or who thought it was possibly time for a change - were considered the rotten devils, 'not a real fan' etc etc.
It's amazing that if anyone thinks, actually there might be something to that bit of 'not totally positive rumour' about a player maybe not signing a contract or the stadium suffering a further delay because of x/y possibility you are labelled a 'moaner'/'heretic'/'Levy basher'/'Knee-jerker'.
If you think that Pochettino because of HIS OWN WORDS [e.g. here: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...tenham-hotspur-manchester-city-premier-league] was NOT happy with the total transfer inactivity over the summer you are a 'negative nancy'/'doom merchant'/'not a real fan'.
It creates more divisions like what happens when people think too much PC rules are being applied to discussions of everyday politics and perhaps some subjects are 'beyond discussion'...in fact it's a little bit, dare i say, RAWK-like
Poch is our best manager we have had by a mile in the last 30 to 40 years. He is also, likely the most ambitious AND he has the talent to realise it.
I don't think it is a heresy to say that he himself wants to realise those ambitions with Tottenham but Tottenham need to show they want to realise them with him too. In this life most of the time you have to MAKE things happen for you, especially if you have the opportunities and the right environment.
Poch represents both right now and we must grasp the nettle.
Just look over at the Gooner swamp to see what happens if you DON'T grasp the opportunity and aim high..
Ultimately, we all want our club to succeed and we probably all want Poch to be the man who doesn't - after all, who couldn't but love the guy and how he works.
Let's hope the club aim high - on the field as well as off it...
We know that the Gutter Press like to twist his words into a negative headline for us - eg the Times headline above lol - but equally it seems some react to those who say "he is saying if we want to go for the big trophies we have to act and operate like we mean it, including in the transfer market" like we are in the same boat as the likes of the Times.
We have a coach here who is VERY ambitious, VERY professional and is certainly the best COACH the club has had in 30, maybe 40 years and it would be inexplicable - but yet perhaps typical - if the club do not grasp the opportunity to use this fantastic coach and manager to put the club back in the higher echelons of the sport.
This DOES mean backing him in the transfer market. It DOES mean changing how we operate in it. It does NOT mean not signing anyone. It also DOES NOT mean signing anyone for the sake of it - which i believe we have sometimes done recently.
It's quite amazing how polarising certain discussion points now seems to be becoming on here, it reminds me of Gooners during the slow Wenger/Kroenke decline years, whereby anyone who wasn't totally 'Wenger In' - or who thought it was possibly time for a change - were considered the rotten devils, 'not a real fan' etc etc.
It's amazing that if anyone thinks, actually there might be something to that bit of 'not totally positive rumour' about a player maybe not signing a contract or the stadium suffering a further delay because of x/y possibility you are labelled a 'moaner'/'heretic'/'Levy basher'/'Knee-jerker'.
If you think that Pochettino because of HIS OWN WORDS [e.g. here: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...tenham-hotspur-manchester-city-premier-league] was NOT happy with the total transfer inactivity over the summer you are a 'negative nancy'/'doom merchant'/'not a real fan'.
It creates more divisions like what happens when people think too much PC rules are being applied to discussions of everyday politics and perhaps some subjects are 'beyond discussion'...in fact it's a little bit, dare i say, RAWK-like
Poch is our best manager we have had by a mile in the last 30 to 40 years. He is also, likely the most ambitious AND he has the talent to realise it.
I don't think it is a heresy to say that he himself wants to realise those ambitions with Tottenham but Tottenham need to show they want to realise them with him too. In this life most of the time you have to MAKE things happen for you, especially if you have the opportunities and the right environment.
Poch represents both right now and we must grasp the nettle.
Just look over at the Gooner swamp to see what happens if you DON'T grasp the opportunity and aim high..
Ultimately, we all want our club to succeed and we probably all want Poch to be the man who doesn't - after all, who couldn't but love the guy and how he works.
Let's hope the club aim high - on the field as well as off it...
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
Good of you to post the full quotes. Indeed the bolded bit at this stage is key, as i say Poch is an ambitious guy and it's pie in the sky to think he will not want the club to show similar ambition on the pitch also
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
I'm not sure where or when he's supposed to have made the remarks reported by the BBC, but I listened to the whole thing and they weren't from the broadcast part of the recent press conference. A supplementary briefing, perhaps, although I thought it had been reported recently that he wasn't going to be doing those any more.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Here you go. Just listen for a little bit.
'But if we after, we want to win titles, we need to operate in a different way. At the moment, we operate in the same way that we operate five year(s) ago when we arrive - and of course, maybe we can win some title(s). But it is going to be a tough job to do, because, in that situation, every club in the last five years was improving a lot.'
'The other day I saw a stat that in the last ten year(s), in England and Europe, how the teams were spending money. And I think, we were at the bottom. Yes, in Europe. And England (as well). And of course, we are doing a fantastic job, but if we want to be real contenders, then we need to operate in a different way in the future. At the moment (it) is fantastic, so far, so good. But we will see if it is enough to challenge and be consistent in the next five year(s), in that way, to operate in that way, if we are capable to fight with the big sides in the same way that we fight in the last four year(s).'
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
I heard all that; what I didn't hear was the part where he's supposed to have said he hopes to be here for 20 years.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Oh, sorry mate. I thought you meant the first ones, the ones being highlighted by Sky.
I don't think I heard those '20 years' comments either.
Lemonade Money
Steffen Freund
Isn't he basically saying he wants more money to spend (If we want him to stick around for 20 years)? He's not happy just getting top 4, he wants to win the league. If we give him the tools, he'll stay; he's got no excuse.
He's either using the man u situation for leverage, or if he knows for a fact that there is no more money, he's starting his exit strategy.
He's either using the man u situation for leverage, or if he knows for a fact that there is no more money, he's starting his exit strategy.