glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Ange is certainly not above criticism, the taking and defending set pieces is a major problem for me.
However it's still early days and to early to make any real judgements.
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Ange is certainly not above criticism, the taking and defending set pieces is a major problem for me.
However it's still early days and to early to make any real judgements.
Jurgen the German
Tommy Harmer
I also see people saying Arteta took time to get the results they wanted which is true but their hierarchy are more patient than ours. Ange won’t get more than one season of missing CL before he gets canned.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Their hierarchy wanted to replace Arteta but didn’t get who they wanted
They even met with Poch
tommysvr
Justin Edinburgh
This forum is better than most places, but not completely void of reactionary stuff...just go back a few pages.
Otherwise, see the replies here:
jrh
Steve Hodge
Most of those replies will be WUMs, bots or Gooners in disguise.. I take all the discourse on Twitter with a massive pinch of salt.
Don't think it's an accurate barometer of anything.
fernadez
Jonathan Woodgate
Not sure about his response there, we always seem to be attacked from transitions. The way we set up promotes it when we lose the ball as we've got so many men up the pitch.
Absolutely. My question would be, play out of defense for what? We are pretty good at breaks or carrying the ball with the team in motion. Why does everything then grind to a halt 75% of the time? Out on the wing, to the byline, cross towards attackers who are 1 second too late because they finally realize someone else doing something. Option two, dribble dribble finding opening to nobody, lose the ball, get caught on a break. Please run around a bit. Keep the defense moving. Do that and Maddison will come to his right.
jrh
Steve Hodge
Yeah but that's just outright nonsense, I'd like to think most sound-minded fans dismiss those kind of comments out of hand.
tommysvr
Justin Edinburgh
He's saying we need to keep the ball better, and hurt them when we have it.
jrh
Steve Hodge
The idea is the keep the ball and not allow transitions though, it's what we fail to do especially with Son playing as a training dummy at the minute.
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
In my humble opinion it's ground to halt because we have had a real knock to our confidence.
Ange plays a high risk game, our players appear to be worried about the consequences of that going wrong.
Instead of free flowing instinctive football that was a joy to watch and tearing teams apart we've become a cautious, over thinking team worrying about what happens if it goes wrong rather than the rewards when we get it right.
Mrs Vert
William Gallas
Again depends on how high those bumps are! As mentioned before. It's the manor in which we lose which is annoying. Being outplayed I can take. Us just being awful and not dealing with crosses. Making poor passes and not shooting etc is tough to watch.
I'm still here for it and understand we need more windows. But seeing brainfarts and basics not doing done....is annoying. I wish it didn't annoy me. But it does
metalgear
Nayim
I'd like to see vdv and dragusin for a change. don't think it will happen as ange seems to trust his captains a lot.
. Some people dont half talk some bollox on here
tommysvr
Justin Edinburgh
Of course it annoys you and it should - but for me this season was always about next season. Anything we got out of it in terms of league position is a bonus.
fernadez
Jonathan Woodgate
I understand that but no team converts more than they cough up the ball.
Difference is when we cough it up we give up good chances to the opposition cause of our set up.
Every time we fail to score shouldn't result in a counter attack and panic.
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Always the same circular arguments. Never a defeat where it doesn’t become Levy out vs Levy in.
Both have their merits but think people need to agree to disagree. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Think one of the things I find interesting is seeing people say that Ange doesn’t learn and makes the same mistakes. That there’s no plan B.
To be honest I don’t think plan B’s exist much when it comes to managers. Every coach has their way of playing and it usually doesn’t change that much.
You might get exceptions like Guardiola but there’s a reason he’s in the absolute top bracket of managers.
Everyone else has a distinctive playing style and they don’t compromise on it cos it’s what they believe in.
Cheesy as it may sound we sang “we’ll play the way we want to, with big Ange Postecoglu whether we’re RIGHT OR WRONG”
All I know is I’d rather have two games where we get spanked in a debut season cos of our front footedness then ever watch the kind of crap we churned out under out last 3 managers.
fudge it I’d rather get spanked 10 games a season for the next few seasons running then watch that shower of brick again.
Let’s enjoy the good days (which there’ve been many off), resist the temptation to turn toxic and back everyone associated with our club for the last few matches?
I still believe we’ve got it in us to get top 4 and to do Arsenal over when they come to us. And even if we don’t, least we’ll know we dared to do and failed attempting to play like Spurs.
Glenda's Legs
Les Ferdinand
It’s the tactics v strategy argument. Short term (tactics) things are likely to go wrong (as they are). But if we have the longer term strategy right (players to sign to fit the manager’s style) then we just need to show patience. Nothing wrong with criticising, but see the bigger picture.