*** Tottenham Hotspur Vs Forest *** OMT

[Bishop]

One problem for me is that our defending has not improved and we do not have injuries to key players in defence.

As a few of us said last season, injuries were never the problem.

 

[afsoc4life]

I see we are asking for certain other players - I can almost guarantee that if we get them and dont use them the right way - we would start insulting them here.

 

[Jurgen the German]

He still has that Brazil no. 9 tag and did score 6 PL games this season. Enough for Galatasaray who wanted him in the past, I hope.

The Brazil number 9 tag means about as much as being the Peru number 9 these days.

 

[SpurMeUp]

We’ve been dogbrick as well mate. Frank needs time and your defence of him is admirable. But this is another performance to be filed under absolutely unacceptable.

Same as Chelsea, same as Woolwich. Same as Bodo and Monaco for me too.

I don't think there is any doubt we've been shyte. I just don't lay the blame for Gray/Vic gift them an open goal and Vic missing a cross at Frank - do you?

We're rebuilding without Maddison and Kulu. We're about where we should be.

 

[Baleforce]

We may well have! You said negative, the football Forest is playing is anything but at the moment. Plowing through us at will.

because we are letting them, if we were putting up a fight they would be digging in

they are still keeping things locked down at the back easily

 

[Nexus1967]

I would say Richy Simons and Kudus will not get any starts if Maddison Kulu and Solanke were fit

 

[Mikey10]

Just cheering myself up by imagining the reaction of our fanbase if we appointed Dyche.

 

[Spoonman]

The side are too easily rattled. Away against a physical side, we didn't have composure to pass well and avoid their press. Didn't look focused or ready for the pace of the game.

Tbf we gifted 2 goals, when we needed to just stay in the game, and play ourselves into the game.

Yep, this has been happening for years with different managers and different players. We always looked shocked, surprised and unable to cope with the pace of physicality of the opposition when away from home. I think our training must be non contact at walking pace.

 

[monkeybarry]

Did say I'd refuse to get my hopes up because we'd beaten Brentford and Slavic Prague at home.

As a side note, what the fudge does Tel have to do to get some game time....

Contribute?

 

[billyiddo]

Making Forest look like prime Barcelona, have the players no pride?

This is a team that have been giving away points for fun for the best part of 18 months with not so much as a whimper of a response - they haven't got an ounce of professional pride between them

 

[afsoc4life]

I don't think it's the younger players.
But you need the older ones to help out:
Vicario - the GK you'd want to play against. Blames teammates.

Romero - not as good as he thinks he is.

Porro - inconsistent defensively. Loves a rant - not sure it's productive.

Bentancur - been coasting for over a year . What does he do?

Richi - Everton.

They all need to step up.

Not blaming the players - just that we need patience. And that patience means we will have bad seasons. Not a fan of Frank - I personally think Ange is better than him but we will need patience.

 

[JerusalemMan]

Billie T really is the worst in a highly competitive field.

Who is he? Does he do anything off social media? Would we know him under another name?

 

[SpurMeUp]

How is it they don't seem to learn?

I think its about confidence, and familiarity. Experiecing games like this as a unit, and being ready for them in the future.

 

[Baleforce]

Just cheering myself up by imagining the reaction of our fanbase if we appointed Dyche.

I'm very happy with Frank.

But I'd have been all for Dyche too.

 

[Rafa87]

He can go, TBH I couldn't care anymore

But I am telling you now, if anyone has to rely on Vicario, Porro and RIchy for any length of time, then they are going to be bang in trouble.

Thats not a defence of Frank, thats just the absolute truth

This is where I am tbh.

I like Frank, but sure sack him, we can put Pep in charge, we’ll be back here next year questioning if Pep was ever that special whilst 2-0 down to Brentford on Monday night football.

 

[paxtonwolf]

good manager, sets his teams up in the right way, they don't fudge around at the back

Said the same after they won at Anfield

Ange in charge, they looked certain relegation candidates

Dyche came in, square pegs in square holes, looking solid, beating Liverpool , looking like a team (not sure what happened at Everton though)

Says a lot about Ange too

 

[Legohamster]

Great strike by Morgan Rogers. Wish we had him. Much higher calibre player than we have.

we wont pay the fees for these players, so it will continue, if we were serious we would be in for Wharton

 

[Benny_Lad]

It’s what happens when you sign kids and also-rans.



Billie T really is the worst in a highly competitive field.



Palinha had such a good view of it he should be paying for a ticket.

I agree. Recruitment has been shambolic.

Palace, Villa, Sunderland all doing ok. Creating chances, scoring goals. Equal or less budget.

It’s not a perfect science, but we should have recruited better.

 

[DeanoAustin]

I don't think there is any doubt we've been shyte. I just don't lay the blame for Gray/Vic gift them an open goal and Vic missing a cross at Frank - do you?

We're rebuilding without Maddison and Kulu. We're about where we should be.

You could argue that he’s responsible for the first if he’s asking us to play out. I wouldn’t personally. It’s just a player making a bad mistake.

But the performance has been abysmal. We’ve been horrific at the back and toothless going forward. Again. You’ll always have players who make mistakes for pretty much every goal.

The fact we’re 3-0 down to Forest and deservedly so lays most of the responsibility at the feet of the manager.

The performance, again, is unacceptable and inexcusable.

 

[SpurMeUp]

Yep, this has been happening for years with different managers and different players. We always looked shocked, surprised and unable to cope with the pace of physicality of the opposition when away from home. I think our training must be non contact at walking pace.

And lacking some quality players who have confidence in their ability. Kulu and Maddison huge losses.