Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

[Daisuk]

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[Gutter Boy]

Just backs up the thought some of the playing squad are a disgrace as a well as Frank not being up to it.

In a relegation battle and doing this?

Whoever is next needs to wipe out that changing room and stop the rot.

A squad with a large number of dislikable players.

Would you sack all the fans who ultimately didn't believe in him either? Or maybe all just had decent intuition that only the board didn't.

 

[Jurgen the German]

All sorts of teams with contrasting philosophies can and do play out from the back - it doesn't really say anything here.


Ange & Frank both play a high number of crosses - does that make them similar managers stylistically?

I did say Wenger and Emery weren’t like for like but they’re nowhere near as different as our appointments tend to be. Emery and to an extent Arteta are pragmatic but are also attack minded once they have established defensive stability. If their next manager was Simeone then that would be a radical change.

Our approach seems to be well we’ve tried this and failed, let’s try something completely different.

 

[glorygloryeze]

What a mess.

I think where we are (on the verge of being relegated) i trace back to that summer in 2024 after we missed out on CL by two points after a bad collapse.

The fact we bought several players but only ONE player who could be expected to go straight into the starting 11 (Solanke) said to me the club didn't fancy spending to push on to actually do better in the league and get into the CL.

Again, i i bet there was some unknown investment/financial target that took precedence. Instead of spending on players, we are spending on severance pay for manages/coaches. Maybe that is generally the preferred path of these owners.

Well, they (and sadly, we) will reap what they sewed when we go down

:-(

AT least now we can have proper debates about Leicester fans and whether they are happy with the recent memories of trophies even though they've been relegated...

 

[Junior19]

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Confirms what most of us saw with our own eyes, and called out here on the forum way back in august. (yes, I checked! Check Bournemouth-matchthread, for one)

And this has been one of the major gripes for a lot of us. I expect more such stories to emerge.

 

[SteveAWOL]

Not because of Ange though. That's what I am trying to say. It's was because the 3 teams occupying the bottom 3 were uniquely bad. We still lost at various points to 2 of them I believe.

Yup, we lost at home to both Ipswich plus Leicester last season and only got a point away to those pesky Foxes!

Whilst Russell Martin's Southampton were a historically bad team whom even Frank's lacklustre Brentford battered 5-0 last season!

Southampton 0-5 Brentford: Mbeumo scores twice as Bees win their first away match of Premier League season

Bryan Mbeumo hit a double in a first Premier League away win of the season for Brentford as they crushed lowly Southampton.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[harr1984]

Confirms what most of us saw with our own eyes, and called out here on the forum way back in august. (yes, I checked! Check Bournemouth-matchthread, for one)

And this has been one of the major gripes for a lot of us. I expect more such stories to emerge.

Indeed, his team selections were always about this - conservative and worrying about opposition even if they weren't that good.

Just didn't see how he was a fit for this club, I made a comment when he was appointed I feared we would chew him up and spit him out like we have other managers and here we are.

Feel for him, very much like Nuno handled himself fantastically under the circumstances - and like Nuno, I expect him to rise again at a slightly lesser club. Good luck to him, wasn't nice seeing such a good guy go though this and relieved he has been put out of his misery.....

 

[Bishop]

I don't think Poch is the answer but until he gets another shot he's always going to be lurking in the background. Get it done with. If it works out great, if not at least it puts it to bed once and for all.

I don't even think Poch returning is a good idea but at this point it makes sense. Like you say, it exorcises that ghost and the cloud that lingers in most fan's minds about what could have been or what could be.

I think maybe we just have to see it likely fail to just get past him as a coach. We don't have the same calibre of talent hence my doubts but I dunno. We've tried most other things at this point.

 

[Bishop]

Confirms what most of us saw with our own eyes, and called out here on the forum way back in august. (yes, I checked! Check Bournemouth-matchthread, for one)

And this has been one of the major gripes for a lot of us. I expect more such stories to emerge.

So the previous, previous manager paid absolutely 0 mind to what the opposition might do to our detriment and then the last manager paid too much attention to what the opposition might do.

There is a balance to be found somewhere. Be nice if twe could appoint a person who has it.

 

[DubaiSpur]

He leaves a bit of a nonentity - he didn't deserve the personalized hate he got, but I don't think he deserved any adulation either, because he simply didn't earn it. He was just a largely featureless, mediocre coach in a tracksuit. One you could have swapped out with any old bloke in top-level football with roughly the same (or possible better) results.

Adios, Thomas Frank. Thanks for...uh, City away, I guess?

 

[DubaiSpur]

So the previous, previous manager paid absolutely 0 mind to what the opposition might do to our detriment and then the last manager paid too much attention to what the opposition might do.

There is a balance to be found somewhere. Be nice if twe could appoint a person who has it.

Think it's a question of sequencing mate. Most coaches, I think, do both, but it's the order they do it in that defines them. We've tended to do better as a club with idealists who first prioritize imposing our own style, over adapting to others. But that doesn't mean they don't do the latter, just that it's not the first thing they do.

Ange, Poch and Harry were idealists. Mourinho, Nuno and Frank, pragmatists. AVB was in a sort of halfway house, though the style he imposed was largely 'give it to Bale'.

The last pragmatist who got a sustained tune out of the squad was...I think BMJ?