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The Official EURO 2012 thread

Who will win Euro 2012?

  • Spain

    Votes: 17 17.3%

  • Germany

    Votes: 54 55.1%

  • Holland

    Votes: 17 17.3%

  • France

    Votes: 3 3.1%

  • Italy

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • England

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Croatia

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Poland

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Ukraine

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Total voters
    98
yiddo2786 said:
Team that lost in 2004: David James, Gary Neville, Ledley King, Sol Campbell, Ashley Cole, David Beckham, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard, Paul Scholes, Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen

Infinitely better
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Team that played for France that day: Fabian Barthez, Lilian Thuram, William Gallas, Mikael Silvestre, Bixente Lizarazu, Robert Pires, Patrick Vieira, Claude Makelele, Zinedine Zidane, Thierry Henry, David Trezeguet.

What a team
 
Barthez, Gallas, Thuram, Silvestre (Sagnol 79), Lizarazu, Pires (Wiltord 76), Vieira, Makelele, Zidane, Trezeguet, Henry.

Much, much better attack, inferior defense IMO.

The 2004 England team is more better than the 2012 team than the 2004 French team is better than the 2012 team. If that makes sense.
 
Barthez, Gallas, Thuram, Silvestre, Lizarazu, Pires, Vieira, Makelele, Zidane, Trezeguet, Henry.

INFINITELY infinitely better.
 
Regarding the line up, 4-4-1-1 is basically being pedantic over the front-two. Think France will line-up 4-1-4-1 with Ribery & Nasri on the wings. They're not traditional wide-men, so I'd go 4-3-3. If you do it right with a deep line, it's solid defensively.

Benzema is covered by Terry & Lescott. Nasri & Ribery, as they'll play in the channel rather than the touchline, can be shown wide by the fullback and pressured by the central midfielder to their side (Milner for Ribery, Gerrard for Nasri). Parker sits as an anchor protecting passes to Benzema from Cabaye & the other CM. Oxlade-Chamberlain & Young drop in line with France's CMs to not allow France's CMs too much time.

Depending on where the ball is won, there's good counter-attacking options. If it's won off Ribery; Chamberlain, Gerrard, Young are free to charge and find Welbeck. Likewise for Nasri; but Milner instead of Gerrard. If Parker wins the ball, Chamberlain & Young get the ball, France's CMs pressure them allowing Gerrad & Milner too get in the hole.

.....................Hart
Johnson - Terry - Lescott - Cole
...................Parker
.............Milner- Gerrard
.......Ox - Welbeck - Young
 
Tottenham Dave said:
I actually thought England were the better side in that game in 2004.
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if Beckham never missed the penalty it should have been a totally different story, 2-0 up, dominating the game. Probably would have topped the group meaning we'd of played Greece in the quarter finals instead of Portugal, giving us ultimately a better chance.
 
Mumorn said:
if Beckham never missed the penalty it should have been a totally different story, 2-0 up, dominating the game. Probably would have topped the group meaning we'd of played Greece in the quarter finals instead of Portugal, giving us ultimately a better chance.
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:(

My entire football supporting history is just a series of what-if's.
 
"good turnout for England, looks like there's more than 3,000 there"

meanwhile Ireland had 30,000+ in Poznan.
 
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