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The Goon Thread

tommysvr said:
If I'm Arteta, I'm putting all of this in the changing room for the entirety of pre-season. That moat is going to get bigger and I think strengthen arsenal. The 'everyone's against us' works.
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I’m more concerned they’ll get to the final again but it will be against some jokers like Inter or Sporting and therefore Arsenal will be able to Stoke their way to a 1-0 win.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
The squad will get sick of the style, his voice will start to grate, it happens to all managers of that style eventually
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Eventually, but not sure just one season after winning the league. The worrying thing is they’ve progressed from quarter final to semi to runners up. That’s clear progression. If PSG have an off year then we’re relying on teams like Real and Emirates Marketing Project who haven’t been on it in the last couple of seasons. I also don’t think Bayern are quite there yet.
 
I genuinely think they are at their peak, unless Arteta can do a rebuild for different tactics, which I think is beyond him.

I think next season will see them reffed differently in the EPL with much more scrutiny over their set pieces and time-wasting and this will create more management problems for Arteta, which I think he struggles to adapt to. They had a fairly easy run this year in terms of injuries and suspensions. They will still be up there, they will still be a favourite for all 4 competitions they are in, but they won't win all their CL games again, for example, and they won't have so much 'luck' elsewhere and this attrition will mean they plateau or fall short of this years achievements.

Appreciate that Liverpool, Chelsea, Emirates Marketing Project, Man Utd to some extent and us all have new managers and they are settled. Also think a lot of their squad will feel they have achieved and will be less than they were this year - they have proved the point that they aren't bottlers (apparently) and their focus and drive will be less. Marginal losses are as important as marginal gains.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Eventually, but not sure just one season after winning the league. The worrying thing is they’ve progressed from quarter final to semi to runners up. That’s clear progression. If PSG have an off year then we’re relying on teams like Real and Emirates Marketing Project who haven’t been on it in the last couple of seasons. I also don’t think Bayern are quite there yet.
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It is, but its playing a standard of football thats not wiping teams off the planet, teams will have the summer to figure things out, PGMOL won't allow another season of it because of tbe bad PR that will follow it. This isnt the Arsenal under Wenger who were near unmatchable.

Also the level needed to be so negative is tiring for the players, Rice looks cooked. Some won't want another season of it and the levels will drop off eventually
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
5th next season
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Lost Mango said:
I genuinely think they are at their peak, unless Arteta can do a rebuild for different tactics, which I think is beyond him.

I think next season will see them reffed differently in the EPL with much more scrutiny over their set pieces and time-wasting and this will create more management problems for Arteta, which I think he struggles to adapt to. They had a fairly easy run this year in terms of injuries and suspensions. They will still be up there, they will still be a favourite for all 4 competitions they are in, but they won't win all their CL games again, for example, and they won't have so much 'luck' elsewhere and this attrition will mean they plateau or fall short of this years achievements.

Appreciate that Liverpool, Chelsea, Emirates Marketing Project, Man Utd to some extent and us all have new managers and they are settled. Also think a lot of their squad will feel they have achieved and will be less than they were this year - they have proved the point that they aren't bottlers (apparently) and their focus and drive will be less. Marginal losses are as important as marginal gains.
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Agree on them slipping down the table next year.

The PL referees are going to have to approach their antics differently next year, particularly after the ref in Saturday's game showed them how to do it. I reckon there is going to be a purge on shenanigans in the box from corners and other set-pieces next season and that will affect them more than any other PL team as it will basically blow their entire game plan apart.

We are not the only ones wondering if they have peaked...

www.theguardian.com

If Arsenal have made most of their resources, is this as good as it gets? | Jonathan Liew

Thirst for renewal is strong and new players could help bridge the gap to PSG but there are no guarantees
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Lost Mango said:
I genuinely think they are at their peak, unless Arteta can do a rebuild for different tactics, which I think is beyond him.

I think next season will see them reffed differently in the EPL with much more scrutiny over their set pieces and time-wasting and this will create more management problems for Arteta, which I think he struggles to adapt to. They had a fairly easy run this year in terms of injuries and suspensions. They will still be up there, they will still be a favourite for all 4 competitions they are in, but they won't win all their CL games again, for example, and they won't have so much 'luck' elsewhere and this attrition will mean they plateau or fall short of this years achievements.

Appreciate that Liverpool, Chelsea, Emirates Marketing Project, Man Utd to some extent and us all have new managers and they are settled. Also think a lot of their squad will feel they have achieved and will be less than they were this year - they have proved the point that they aren't bottlers (apparently) and their focus and drive will be less. Marginal losses are as important as marginal gains.
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The key will be if they can buy a dribbler and/or a bonafide number 9 who is better (and faster) than Gyokeres and bang in 16 goals minimum from open play. If they get that then it might be trouble for the resat of the league.

But i tend to agree with you that lack PGMOL 'support' and more scrutiny on tactical approach will mean this might be their peak. It;d be different if this was Arteta's 3rd year or similar, but 6 years is a long time to hear his David Brent style week in, week out...
 
thfcsteff said:
Exactly!!!!
They thought it would be their incredible day. Instead, they rather 'incredibly' managed to booby-trap their own title celebration. Absolutely marvelous. I mean, I've had to say nothing to my goon mates whatsoever, or any goons for that matter because they're all bitterly blubbering on about how 'at least we got there' and 'you're jealous' and 'second best team in Europe' blah blah, effectively sucking joy out of their own title win. Could not have written it any better. Plus they've now shown the world what they are. One pundit in the US said PSG's strength was being a beautiful singer trying to sing beautiful songs whilst the goons 'strength' was being able to accurately punch the singer in the throat to stop them singing. tossers forever!
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That popped up on my YouTube this morning, they should get this Mike Grella on MotD as a pundit!

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MartyFunkhouser said:
Because they self harmed....I dont see them having another like it. Also got a clued up manager
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I don’t actually rate their squad apart from Caicedo, Palmer and Neto. They’re not going to finish above Arsenal with Liam Delap leading the line. They have a good manager now but their squad is nowhere near as good as Arsenal.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Chelsea are dreadful. Did they even finish in the top half this season?
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They were doing very well until they fell out with Maresca and he left, they then basically played the rest of the games managerless. They’ve got Alonso now and their squad is nowhere near as bad as it’s being made out to be, in fact it’s very good with a couple of additions.
 
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