The Game Is About Glory Podcast

[thfcsteff]

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Very good!

 

[LutonSpurs]

We stank

 

[thfcsteff]

We stank

Excellent!

 

[milo]

Doubting Thomas
Season 6 Episode 23
Steff, Milo and Gareth are your therapists helping guide us all through the choppy waters which saw a home defeat to Fulham and a CL away defeat to PSG. You actually get a little over the usual ‘hour’ AND we don’t charge, so settle back on the couch, clear your mind, and engage with the assistance being offered (hope it helps!)…

The Game Is About Glory

A Tottenham Hotspur podcast

thegameisaboutglory.co.uk

 

[glasgowspur]

Doubting Thomas
Season 6 Episode 23
Steff, Milo and Gareth are your therapists helping guide us all through the choppy waters which saw a home defeat to Fulham and a CL away defeat to PSG. You actually get a little over the usual ‘hour’ AND we don’t charge, so settle back on the couch, clear your mind, and engage with the assistance being offered (hope it helps!)…

The Game Is About Glory

A Tottenham Hotspur podcast

thegameisaboutglory.co.uk

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I listen to the pod on my commute of a Monday, always gives me a reason to get up on a Monday.
Only about 20 minutes in atm, so the comments about the players don't know what to do, the instructions aren't clear, they're confused.
how many times have we heard this, it's the same with every manager, are the players dumb?
We've went from all out attack last season, which confused them apparently, to "solidity" this season and they don't understand that either.
Are they goldilocks?

 

[thfcsteff]

I listen to the pod on my commute of a Monday, always gives me a reason to get up on a Monday.
Only about 20 minutes in atm, so the comments about the players don't know what to do, the instructions aren't clear, they're confused.
how many times have we heard this, it's the same with every manager, are the players dumb?
We've went from all out attack last season, which confused them apparently, to "solidity" this season and they don't understand that either.
Are they goldilocks?

I think if you have spent two seasons aligning the club to a style of play -or at least an ethos of front-foot play- then to flip the tables so as suddenly they are now being set-up not to concede first and foremost and coached to create chances in a different way to before, then no, they're not 'dumb' we just keep flipping managerial styles all the time and players get thrown around within that. Whether we think that's right or wrong in terms of principles, I think it is a fact. Have we made successive appts of managers who carry the same ethos and way of playing football in the last 25 years? I genuinely don't think so.

One thing I don't they were last season was confused. I appreciate there are many differing views on what we were doing, and that (leaving the reasons why out of it) things did not seem to be working. But I never once got the impression the players were confused.

 

[glasgowspur]

I think if you have spent two seasons aligning the club to a style of play -or at least an ethos of front-foot play- then to flip the tables so as suddenly they are now being set-up not to concede first and foremost and coached to create chances in a different way to before, then no, they're not 'dumb' we just keep flipping managerial styles all the time and players get thrown around within that. Whether we think that's right or wrong in terms of principles, I think it is a fact. Have we made successive appts of managers who carry the same ethos and way of playing football in the last 25 years? I genuinely don't think so.

One thing I don't they were last season was confused. I appreciate there are many differing views on what we were doing, and that (leaving the reasons why out of it) things did not seem to be working. But I never once got the impression the players were confused.

We certainly have not carried an ethos, a movie to represent this club would be the three faces of eve.
I don't really think the players are dumb, or the manager for that matter, but we always appear to have a lot square pegs for round holes, and few are suitable for having the edges shaved off to fit.
It was postulated a fair bit last season that the players looked lost, they didn't trust or understand the system, this feels like a stock bat to batter any manager now.
Personally for me it's that players are being trained as robots, anything outside of the prediction of how the game will be played and they are lost.
The system has become king, as soon as someone does something outside the system it all falls down like a pack of cards.

 

[thfcsteff]

We certainly have not carried an ethos, a movie to represent this club would be the three faces of eve.
I don't really think the players are dumb, or the manager for that matter, but we always appear to have a lot square pegs for round holes, and few are suitable for having the edges shaved off to fit.
It was postulated a fair bit last season that the players looked lost, they didn't trust or understand the system, this feels like a stock bat to batter any manager now.
Personally for me it's that players are being trained as robots, anything outside of the prediction of how the game will be played and they are lost.
The system has become king, as soon as someone does something outside the system it all falls down like a pack of cards.

It certainly does open up a whole discussion about how the beauty and nature of football as it once was has been steadily co-opted by business needs and science.
I wonder if the likes of George Best or Diego Maradona would've made it in modern football such was their maverick talent?
Hoddle was possibly one of the very first players I saw suffer in that regard, England never being able to accomodate his talent in lieu of compromising their 'system'.

 

[glasgowspur]

It certainly does open up a whole discussion about how the beauty and nature of football as it once was has been steadily co-opted by business needs and science.
I wonder if the likes of George Best or Diego Maradona would've made it in modern football such was their maverick talent?
Hoddle was possibly one of the very first players I saw suffer in that regard, England never being able to accomodate his talent in lieu of compromising their 'system'.

Too many managers try to tweak the players to get them into the system, whereas I think you should be tweaking the system to get the most from the players.
Tell best or Maradona not to express themselves and play within the system and you're at best playing with half a player.
I shudder to think of hoddle playing under our current system , I have visions of him being told to pass it 20 yards to Porro on the right to swing in a cross, what a waste.

 

[thfcsteff]

Too many managers try to tweak the players to get them into the system, whereas I think you should be tweaking the system to get the most from the players.
Tell best or Maradona not to express themselves and play within the system and you're at best playing with half a player.
I shudder to think of hoddle playing under our current system , I have visions of him being told to pass it 20 yards to Porro on the right to swing in a cross, what a waste.

...or worse still, being restricted to cameos when we're chasing games...