Spurs Summer transfer window 2025 - roundup and review

[Muttley]

What does concern mean is the lack of homegrown talent we have in the squad. To fulfill the quota for the premier league and European squads (need 8) I think we have 7, and a couple of those are injured. Notably Madders. Solanke could be out longer than stated, and Davies being past his best. Our best youngsters are out on loan. Surely this should have been on the radar of those making transfer decisions?. Harvey Elliott would have been perfect.

I believe we have addressed it but it's taking time to materialise.

In the PL HG quota we have
Spence
Davies
Madds
Solanke
Johnson
Danso
Austin

So we're one short of having 8 but we also have Gray, Odobert and Bergval as U21 free picks. They will naturally become homegrown along with about another 8-10 U21's like Mikey in due course, if they make the grade.

Eze and MGW are HG so we were trying. We showed some interest in Wharton but seemed to pull back. I have a feeling we've considered others like Morgan Rogers as well. As you say, Elliott's name was there somewhere as well.

I might be wrong, but I think we only have 16 overseas players in the PL squad. Takai would be the 17th in the future but he's still U21 as well.

So one short on both homegrown and overseas, but more than compensated by a bunch of talented U21s. It's a big squad nowadays.

It definitely feels like the trend is in a good direction to me.

 

[Gutter Boy]

I think it's between B and C. Not so much the targets , all of whom I like, but for how late the transfers were done which means lost points.

Also two loans probably means we are short of funding and making palhinha and kolo permanent will eat into next seasons transfer budget.

And while we shifted many players, we still could shift bissouma and Solomon. Yeah we won Europa, but finishing 17th probably doesn't make our players more attractive and valuable.

But target remains champions league position and I think 5th is an achievable target . ( We can forget about top four unless we have funds to recruit in the winter.) We absolutely need to be better than Villa, Saudi Sportswashing Machine and Man U.

We've got 7 points from 9. That's a pretty great start. I'm not sure getting Muani and Simons in 2-3 weeks earlier would necessarily have got us those 2 lost points. We've also ended up longer term with better players than we would likely have got if we'd moved earlier

 

[glorygloryeze]

We've got 7 points from 9. That's a pretty great start. I'm not sure getting Muani and Simons in 2-3 weeks earlier would necessarily have got us those 2 lost points. We've also ended up longer term with better players than we would likely have got if we'd moved earlier

2 wins and a defeat gets 7 points now??

 

[Gutter Boy]

It's always going to be difficult to sign HG player as there are so few to pick from and the best will go to the top 6 clubs or highest wages.

Its also CT we need, not HG (though getting Danso has been a bonus on HG). The likes of Grey, Bergvall, Lankshear, Odobert and Vuskovic came in young enough that they will help us big time with that in the coming years

 

[braineclipse]

What does concern mean is the lack of homegrown talent we have in the squad. To fulfill the quota for the premier league and European squads (need 8) I think we have 7, and a couple of those are injured. Notably Madders. Solanke could be out longer than stated, and Davies being past his best. Our best youngsters are out on loan. Surely this should have been on the radar of those making transfer decisions?. Harvey Elliott would have been perfect.

The main problem is in Europe, where we can't register everyone. We don't really have a problem with home grown players, but with club trained players.

That issue has been on the radar and addressed by the people in charge of transfers I believe. Think players like Bergvall, Gray and Vuskovic will end up as club trained. Others like Odobert I think will end up home grown.

But it takes time, they have to be here 3 years to get that. They also have to be here for two years to be on the B-list. So from next season it will be way less of an issue.

When those players get older and have to be included in the 25 for the PL they will be home grown.

So problem solved, assuming those players develop and progress as we hope. But it should be a continued focus to some extent.

 

[SirPercyHotspur]

Pretty good window with best bits saved to last .
Be glad when the PL & CL squads are announced now the window is shut , need a university degree to work it all out .

From the updated PL squad announced after the January window closed we had a 24 man squad from which we have lost Forster HG, Reguilon, Robson HG , Werner, Whiteman HG , Sonny and we don't know about Biss , the following were all on the PL U21 list, Kinsky, Bergvall, Gray, Odobert and Tel.

 

[Muttley]

Here's the chronology of the incomings:

Vuskovic - deal agreed in Sep 23, joined for pre-season
Danso - obligation to buy was made in January
Tel - 15 June the conversion of loan to purchase was confirmed by the club
Takai - 8 July deal confirmed
Kudus - 10 July deal confirmed
Palhinha - 3 Aug loan confirmed
Simons - 29 Aug deal confirmed
Muani - 31 Aug loan confirmed

Perhaps the questionable timing was Simons. I can imagine us all being a little more chilaxed if that had happened a month earlier. I wonder what was the reason it couldn't have concluded earlier. That still makes me think that we were his second choice or he wasn't our main man for the role. We obviously kept reading the Chelsea links but who knows what to believe anyway. We got our man, that's the main thing.

 

[Gutter Boy]

The main problem is in Europe, where we can't register everyone. We don't really have a problem with home grown players, but with club trained players.

That issue has been on the radar and addressed by the people in charge of transfers I believe. Think players like Bergvall, Gray and Vuskovic will end up as club trained. Others like Odobert I think will end up home grown.

But it takes time, they have to be here 3 years to get that. They also have to be here for two years to be on the B-list. So from next season it will be way less of an issue.

When those players get older and have to be included in the 25 for the PL they will be home grown.

So problem solved, assuming those players develop and progress as we hope. But it should be a continued focus to some extent.

We can use Scarlet and Craig to pad out the CT numbers if we want, as neither could secure moves away (unless they are going abroad to places with different windows)

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

Its also CT we need, not HG (though getting Danso has been a bonus on HG). The likes of Grey, Bergvall, Lankshear, Odobert and Vuskovic came in young enough that they will help us big time with that in the coming years

Sorry I haven't a clue what CT means, I'm just use to football the rest is just ideas to make the game complicated and screw someone.

 

[Chrissivad]

Sorry I haven't a clue what CT means, I'm just use to football the rest is just ideas to make the game complicated and screw someone.

Club trained

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Very good window but i'd have liked a top quality left winger/inside forward and a centre back. Rome wasn't built in a day and I think the key things are that we have added three players in Muani, Kudus and Simons that can really take the game to the opposition in a way that those in our existing squad couldn't. You could see agsinst Bournemouth how easy it was to stop us playing - just double mark Kudus and there was no other threat. Hopefully from now on that will change. Paulinha gives us that no. 6 we have been crying out for forever. Probably since the Dier/Wanyama days.

 

[Kandi1977]

This transfer window has meant that for our next game, against West Ham, we could be fielding an attack of Kudus, Muani, Simons and Solanke.
That's going to frighten their defence.
And once these players starting gelling and understanding each other and Frank's demands...we could see some very special games.

Frightening on paper, but if I was west ham, I would not be scared. That quartet has played the square root of feck all together. Will take time to get on the same page, and they might never gel.
We just have to hope they're a good match for each other.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

Club trained

Oigi

 

[markysimmo]

 

[Muttley]

I guess Johan talked mostly about the things that you'd expect. A couple of interesting snippets though

- Normally a bulk of the work can be done between the leadership and the manager in the Feb / Mar timeframe. You obviously can't do that with a new manager. What's interesting is that once Ange was eliminated from discussions on squad development (assuming he was) that would have explained some of his public narratives. Thinking back to that comment about Ange saying that he needed to be invited to the meetings.

- Interesting that Madds injury came into the transfer discussion with Johan. That tells it's own story.

- Another mention for Andy Scoulding who runs the loan department. Mention on how we have "higher" loans this season compare to last. Loan considerations are predicting game time, assessing whether the managers give youth a chance, style of play and strength of the league etc. Sounds like good progress.

- According to Johan we should celebrate extended contracts more than we do.

- Player development isn't linear is also a great call by Johan when talking about Djed.

Overall, a really good interview.

 

[markysimmo]

 

[markysimmo]

Here’s a structured summary of the transcript you shared — it’s essentially a long Spurs-focused football discussion with Rafa Honigstein, covering transfers, Bundesliga insights, and cultural comparisons:

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Key Themes & Takeaways​

1. Xavi Simons Signing​

• Profile: Huge talent, very versatile (No.10, inside left/right, attacking 8, maybe false 9).
• Strengths: Creativity, dribbling, passing, pressing ability.
• Concerns: Consistency + maturity; some reputation issues at Leipzig but still only 22.
• Chelsea vs Spurs: Spurs offered a clearer starting role than Chelsea, where competition is heavier.
• Fit with Maddison: Spurs needed someone regardless of Maddison’s injury; Simons can complement or eventually replace him.

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2. Randal Kolo Muani (Loan Signing)​

• Profile: Natural No.9, not a pure target man — thrives on pace, runs behind defenders, and intelligent movement.
• Career Context: Struggled at PSG due to Mbappé overshadowing; confidence dipped.
• Potential at Spurs: Could thrive if system suits him (runs off the shoulder rather than endless aerial duels).
• Risk/Reward: Minimal financial risk, but as a loan, Spurs may not fully “develop” him if he isn’t theirs long term.
• Notable Moment: Almost a World Cup hero vs Argentina — shows how fine margins shaped his career perception.

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3. Mathys Tel & João Palhinha (from Bayern)​

• Mathys Tel:
  • Hugely likable, hardworking, versatile forward.
  • Struggled for starts at Bayern due to stacked squad (Sané, Coman, Gnabry, Kane).
  • Hybrid type — not a pure 9 or winger, which limits him.
  • At Spurs: raw talent, exciting but inconsistent decision-making. Left out of CL squad, which is telling.
• João Palhinha:
  • Thomas Tuchel pushed hard for him at Bayern, but his role doesn’t fit Vincent Kompany’s more possession-heavy, man-marking system.
  • At Spurs, with Frank’s pragmatism and willingness to soak up pressure, Palhinha could shine as a destructive ball-winner.

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4. Harry Kane at Bayern​

• Impact: 91 goals in 100 games. Finishing + passing praised; also contributes defensively and as a leader.
• Cultural Fit: Bayern fans in awe, but cautious emotionally — they know he won’t stay 6–7 years like Müller.
• Future: Rumors of a release clause (~€80m) next summer. Could leave in 2027. Possible destinations: Spurs return, MLS, Premier League rivals.
• Bayern’s Thinking: Already scouting successors (Sesko, Jackson). Kane’s tenure seen as temporary but transformative.

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5. German Clubs in Europe​

• Dortmund: More reactive under Niko Kovač, dangerous on the counter with Adeyemi, but lack a true superstar (post-Bellingham, Sancho, Haaland era).
• Eintracht Frankfurt: Great scouting/recruitment pipeline, passionate fans, but transitional squad. CL will be tough.
• Leverkusen: In chaos, coach sacked early, many squad changes.
• Overall: Bayern strong; other German sides may struggle in Europe this season.

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6. Bundesliga vs Premier League Fan Culture​

• Premier League: Huge money, global dominance, but poor atmosphere, fan experience declining.
• Bundesliga: 50+1 ownership keeps fans central, affordable tickets, electric stadium atmospheres.
• German Fans’ View:
  • Ultras want to preserve tradition, resist outside investment.
  • Some neutrals frustrated — Germany could be a financial superpower but holds itself back.
• Comparison:
  • PL admired for money/quality.
  • Bundesliga admired for atmosphere/culture.
  • Both wish they could borrow elements from each other.

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7. Closing Notes​

• Munich travel tip: Spatenhaus still excellent for schnitzel — reliable “Kane from the spot” experience, though touristy.
• Hosts joke about a Spurs–Bayern Champions League final in May.

 

[Grays_1890]

B for me

Very happy