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Sick sick world what is wrong with people

MartyFunkhouser said:
Thats literally the point being made nearly every day.

No one is more outraged when a white person commits a crime, the reason its highlighted is because there has been a theme of bigotry on here and people, including myself, highlight evil existing everywhere. The difference is, I am not attacked for being white or my culture when a crime by a white person happens, others are when its a different ethnicity.

There is alot of p1ss taking with posts like "must be their culture" but thats off the back of the above and seems the most civil way of dealing with the balance at times

Every rational person here knows and acknowledges crime and horrific acts happening everywhere. Unless someone can point out someone or somewhere its said differently
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As I said in my previous post, we should all condemn these crimes regardless of who commits them. Equally, I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge that some cultures marginalise women or tolerate attitudes that lead to their mistreatment. Recognising that isn't the same as claiming we're doing everything right here. Abuse and violence against women happen everywhere, including in the UK, and we still have a great deal of work to do.

What I've noticed, though, is an asymmetry in the response depending on who the perpetrator is. I see the same pattern in the politics thread: when Labour drops the ball, it's often barely acknowledged or quickly downplayed, whereas scandals involving the Conservatives or Reform tend to attract much more attention.

I completely understand the frustration when prejudice against particular races or religions is dressed up as concern or outrage. That absolutely should be challenged. At the same time, I find the selective outrage and point-scoring over these issues rather distasteful. If we're going to condemn abuse, violence or wrongdoing, we should do so consistently, regardless of who committed it or who it reflects badly on.
 
Jurgen the German said:
As I said in my previous post, we should all condemn these crimes regardless of who commits them. Equally, I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge that some cultures marginalise women or tolerate attitudes that lead to their mistreatment. Recognising that isn't the same as claiming we're doing everything right here. Abuse and violence against women happen everywhere, including in the UK, and we still have a great deal of work to do.

What I've noticed, though, is an asymmetry in the response depending on who the perpetrator is. I see the same pattern in the politics thread: when Labour drops the ball, it's often barely acknowledged or quickly downplayed, whereas scandals involving the Conservatives or Reform tend to attract much more attention.

I completely understand the frustration when prejudice against particular races or religions is dressed up as concern or outrage. That absolutely should be challenged. At the same time, I find the selective outrage and point-scoring over these issues rather distasteful. If we're going to condemn abuse, violence or wrongdoing, we should do so consistently, regardless of who committed it or who it reflects badly on.
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There are more people who support Labour or are to the left on this forum. That’s really the explanation.
 
Jurgen the German said:
As I said in my previous post, we should all condemn these crimes regardless of who commits them. Equally, I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge that some cultures marginalise women or tolerate attitudes that lead to their mistreatment. Recognising that isn't the same as claiming we're doing everything right here. Abuse and violence against women happen everywhere, including in the UK, and we still have a great deal of work to do.

What I've noticed, though, is an asymmetry in the response depending on who the perpetrator is. I see the same pattern in the politics thread: when Labour drops the ball, it's often barely acknowledged or quickly downplayed, whereas scandals involving the Conservatives or Reform tend to attract much more attention.

I completely understand the frustration when prejudice against particular races or religions is dressed up as concern or outrage. That absolutely should be challenged. At the same time, I find the selective outrage and point-scoring over these issues rather distasteful. If we're going to condemn abuse, violence or wrongdoing, we should do so consistently, regardless of who committed it or who it reflects badly on.
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I'm pretty certain Angela Rayner and Kier Starmer were both condemned in the Politics thread.
Which Labour abuse, violence or wrongdoing did you call out that was downplayed?
 
Jurgen the German said:
As I said in my previous post, we should all condemn these crimes regardless of who commits them. Equally, I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge that some cultures marginalise women or tolerate attitudes that lead to their mistreatment. Recognising that isn't the same as claiming we're doing everything right here. Abuse and violence against women happen everywhere, including in the UK, and we still have a great deal of work to do.
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But thats what people here do IMO.

With the rest, I agree to an extent, but on the flip I think its rich of people to condemn only one portion of society when it happens all around us. We have a responsibility to call it out everywhere it appears, not live in glass houses where we pretend it doesn't happen within our own culture. Thats why I can't stand the hypocrisy of people like two foot Tommy who hasn't (from what I can gather) called it out within his fairly close political circle of the EDL, of which he was a member. Thats a lack of balance, not people on a forum saying evil appears everywhere
Jurgen the German said:
What I've noticed, though, is an asymmetry in the response depending on who the perpetrator is. I see the same pattern in the politics thread: when Labour drops the ball, it's often barely acknowledged or quickly downplayed, whereas scandals involving the Conservatives or Reform tend to attract much more attention.
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Thats not really true, Starmer, RR and Rayner have been getting pelters all over the shop. Its hard not to speak at length about Farage and Reform given the current landscape, thats only natural. Its also not really anyone fault that they have picked up so many scumbags in their ranks who have been outed and sacked. If thay cant be condemned or mentioned then its a sad reflection on society. But to repeat, Labour have been a sh1tshow, not sure there is anyone on here that says otherwise
Jurgen the German said:
I completely understand the frustration when prejudice against particular races or religions is dressed up as concern or outrage. That absolutely should be challenged. At the same time, I find the selective outrage and point-scoring over these issues rather distasteful. If we're going to condemn abuse, violence or wrongdoing, we should do so consistently, regardless of who committed it or who it reflects badly on.
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Again, thats what most do.......

In fairness, and in terms of balance of views and tolerance, when there was a recent issue on another thread and something was said, its those that get labelled on here for being unbalanced who jumped that that persons defence and called for a second chance. I think there is alot of generalisations made on here about what tone is on these threads without actually getting into the nuts and bolts of whats being actually said.

There was a time recently when someone claimed there was bullying on the politics thread, but there was no such outrage or calling out when people came on here with several proxy accounts and were passing around racial and bigoted slurs.....so when people talk about the lack of balance, I do find it slightly rich given the history of people like Danish etc on here.
 
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