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Lost Mango said:
Former UKIP leader mis-uses statistics to make a somewhat race targeted claim? Who would have thought it?????

Saying it in the House of Lords doesn't make it any more accurate that saying it at the pub.

www.thejournal.ie

Debunked: Estimate of 250,000 victims of UK ‘grooming gangs’ is based on bad stats

Claims of 250,000 grooming gang victims were shared in the House of Lords
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A simple explanation why the statistics you have quoted are probably significantly over-stated, possibly deliberately.

The figures used for Rotherham are based on an estimate of all sexually exploited children in the area, not about grooming gangs, or white victims, or Muslim or Pakistani perpetrators. These have been conflated together to make a deliberate race focused point. Similarly the extrapolation from another set of data (Oxfordshire/Oxford) takes the assault figures for the county and imposes it on a city population 1/5th of the size to make the estimated number look 5 times bigger. Overall, the Pearson quote takes 3 limited investigations into sexual abuse hotspots and uses a very heavy hand to extrapolate that to across the country to get a headline. And then wraps it up in a totally unsupported claim that 225,000 of those rapes are by Muslims (ethnicity and religion isn't recorded and all the original reports say is that 'many' of the assaults were carried out by Muslims).

3.1 million people in the UK say they have been sexually assaulted. 8% of the population. It is probably higher because a lot still goes unreported, especially in domestic situations. Even so this leaves at least 2.9 million people that you don't seem particularly concerned about because it doesn't fit your viewpoint.
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We don't do accuracy here.............
 
Interesting how quiet it is on here when the Epstein files seems to zoom in on rich powerful white men doing the dirty.

Amazing that the only person no serving time for all these crimes is a woman whilst all the men seemingly can continue to roam the world free
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
There is part of me who thinks he is just purely trolling, but then I also hope that, because being serious, if he isn't you have to worry about the guy and not only that, anyone that has the misfortune to live with such a gong show
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That's Scara. People like him don't realise how they validate radical views when they post stuff they don't mean for bants. Danish was supported by Scara and Marky and Silly and now they have all taken a hiatus while he continues to spiral on here.
 
Lost Mango said:
Former UKIP leader mis-uses statistics to make a somewhat race targeted claim? Who would have thought it?????

Saying it in the House of Lords doesn't make it any more accurate that saying it at the pub.

www.thejournal.ie

Debunked: Estimate of 250,000 victims of UK ‘grooming gangs’ is based on bad stats

Claims of 250,000 grooming gang victims were shared in the House of Lords
www.thejournal.ie www.thejournal.ie

A simple explanation why the statistics you have quoted are probably significantly over-stated, possibly deliberately.

The figures used for Rotherham are based on an estimate of all sexually exploited children in the area, not about grooming gangs, or white victims, or Muslim or Pakistani perpetrators. These have been conflated together to make a deliberate race focused point. Similarly the extrapolation from another set of data (Oxfordshire/Oxford) takes the assault figures for the county and imposes it on a city population 1/5th of the size to make the estimated number look 5 times bigger. Overall, the Pearson quote takes 3 limited investigations into sexual abuse hotspots and uses a very heavy hand to extrapolate that to across the country to get a headline. And then wraps it up in a totally unsupported claim that 225,000 of those rapes are by Muslims (ethnicity and religion isn't recorded and all the original reports say is that 'many' of the assaults were carried out by Muslims).

3.1 million people in the UK say they have been sexually assaulted. 8% of the population. It is probably higher because a lot still goes unreported, especially in domestic situations. Even so this leaves at least 2.9 million people that you don't seem particularly concerned about because it doesn't fit your viewpoint.
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Why is race and religion documented in practically every other type of crime by the UK legal system but not with sexual assault?
 
robp135 said:
Collected with actual charge. They can absolutely produce the data if they chose to.
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I don't think thats true at all, but lets consider it is, you don't see how problematic the quality of that data might be?

You have a white man like myself who is Jewish by birth, who would say I have no religion, so how does that then present itself at accurate? Whats the fail safe for those that lie? How do you differentiate between a Pakistani Muslim and a Hindi from Indian if you can't tell the difference and either refuse or lie about their religion?

The data set would be absolutely useless in terms of accuracy and from what I can tell they don't collect religion at all for that reason, but happy to be pointed to where they do???
 
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MartyFunkhouser said:
I don't think thats true at all, but lets consider it is, you don't see how problematic the quality of that data might be?

You have a white man like myself who is Jewish by birth, who would say I have no religion, so how does that then present itself at accurate? Whats the fail safe for those that lie? How do you differentiate between a Pakistani Muslim and a Hindi from Indian if you can't tell the difference and either refuse or lie about their religion?

The data set would be absolutely useless in terms of accuracy and from what I can tell they don't collect religion at all for that reason, but happy to be pointed to where they do???
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There is no reason why you could not differentiate that and in any serious crime the police would know a pattern of behaviour that would indicate how religious a person is. You could even grade it.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
So how do you tell a white person's religion if they decide to not disclose it?
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We live in a surveillance state. Even me in the US where there are meant to be more restrictions than in the UK and Europe. When it gets to the point of actually charging someone with a crime they will know more about you than you even know about yourself.
 
robp135 said:
We live in a surveillance state. Even me in the US where there are meant to be more restrictions than in the UK and Europe. When it gets to the point of actually charging someone with a crime they will know more about you than you even know about yourself.
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Sorry mate but thats ridiculous nonsense, the whole fabric of religion means I can be whatever I want on any given day, so being able to lie about it becomes massively easy and means the data would be some of the weakest available. Religion is something where you literally can't tell someone what they are, its as much personal choice as it is anything.
 
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Are the roundabout painters gonna be angry about this one? Or do they only shag flags when Tommy tells em to?
 
LutonSpurs said:
Get off Twitter @Danishfurniturelover you are being consumed with hate. I hope you can find peace.
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Only saw this comment as i was not logged in.

I will not be told what to do by the likes of you or anyone from your hate filled religion, if we are going around telling people what to do how about you stand up to the extremist elements from your so called religion of peace. Unless of course you agree with it, I have my suspicions as to why you dont.

I use a lot of different media mainly actually locals for news, popular in America. But hey this is what the left do, they dont like the news being reported so they dismiss the source. We are seeing religious leaders from Islam in the UK say some seriously disgusting things, well disgusting to me but maybe you dont agree that the abuse of women and children is wrong I dont know. I am sure the videos I have posted are AI.

You are the most disgusting and vile poster on this website, I have been called similar so I cant believe me stating my opinion will be basis for a ban, but who knows. The others on here from the left I can understand it is as misplaced tolerance but you know exactly what you are doing. History has shown as what happens to decent Christian countries when you and your buddies come in and take control of public life. We see it in Tower Hamlets where Christians were not allowed to March peacefully yet we have to tolerate Muslims praying in public, saw it at Beaulieu car museum just a couple of months ago with my own eyes. We saw Muslim community leaders pressure the police into stopping Israeli football fans coming to watch a football match. This is the start and its only going to get worse, thanks but I wont ever stop and I am pleased to say our movement is growing and the are plenty of people who are prepared to defend our values. I am sure you would be happy for this country to go the way of the former Christian countries in the middle east where women and homosexuals are now tortured and killed, where young girls are not allowed an Education.

I do not wish you peace, I wish you enlightenment to see the pure evil that you support and through keeping quiet, promote. You are a disgrace of a Human being. You are on block so I can only read your vile posts when logged out.



As ever I campaign in peace inciting no violence to anyone but you know what I will use the same language as is used against me, I have been called a coward and racist. You lot on here need to look at yourselves and see what you are turning a blind eye to, the sort of people who promote hate, hate towards women and children. If you really any of you believed in your liberal superiority you would be calling out the Ismalists instead of siding with them just because you don't like right wing people. You are all a disgrace.
 
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