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Sick sick world what is wrong with people

Danishfurniturelover said:
100%

Those are high odds.

We have all seen terror attacks by motor vehicles, I can have some empathy for the law enforcement in that position. But empathy is not something those on the far left have unless it fits their pre existing narrative.
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The other officers approached the car with no weapons drawn.
Had they assessed this wasn't a 'terror attack' (in the sense of how we know it, not Trumps labelling) or were they foolish?
 
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MartyFunkhouser said:
Yeh because a 5 year old kid isn't trained to defuse situations like this. What a weird weird take.

How would a cop in the UK act without the aid of a Gun? Maybe remove the hand? Maybe let the panic stop and then deal with it? I've had an uber drive off at speed with hand on the door and its a fairly natural reaction to let go of a handle....or is that beyond training?.

The idea you shoot a woman in the head 3 times based on whats in that video is extreme, it was a standing start, she was not ploughing through them like whats being made out.
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Ok, so if i told you that i've seen people charged and convicted of where hand has been on a door, for example in case of a custody battle where woman started opening door to get her kids out and man drove off leaving her with chronic wrist injury would you agree or disagree that this action constituted an aggravated assault?
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
Ok, so if i told you that i've seen people charged and convicted of where hand has been on a door, for example in case of a custody battle where woman started opening door to get her kids out and man drove off leaving her with chronic wrist injury would you agree or disagree that this action constituted an aggravated assault?
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I don't doubt it and I could have made a claim myself I am sure, but no one died and or needed to be shot in mine or your examples

No one is shot in the UK or other countries when these situations are needed to be defused.

And I can't remember anyone able to defy physics by shooting someone side on when feeling a threat of being run over - head on

But there we go
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I want to see an end to the ridiculous pandering we do in this country and across Europe to the Islamic community. A community that has done so much to harm western countries.

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Anything wrong with the above video? Never is it seems for you. You can try and laugh it off by saying I have gone far right or I am brain washed. But more and more us see this all the time across the West.

Diversity is our strength right. Well I disagree, it is destroying the country and I can only guess as to why you never condemn it.
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I'm not that imam lad. From Luton innit. But yeah dunno about the rest of the waffle you wrote
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Conviction by social media won't be happening you Silly sausage...but the law IS the law...and in Trumps world sometimes it's not. Wouldn't you agree?
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Especially when you have the power to manipulate it and change it.

Seemingly the pardoning of 1600 people in America means the place is fairly lawless now. Even drug traffickers have been pardoned, which I can't square given that he is fighting the drug war
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
He had managed to step aside of the threat, hence why he was able to get shots off into the side window. It only stands to reason that his life would be at threat had he shot through the front window, face on. There is zero threat if you are able to shoot someone through the side window of a car.
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Unless you think that someone who has been behaving erratically would turn that vehicle around and aim for you again.

Probably should have tried to aim for the tyres.

But if she had behaved sensibly and not like a rabid left wing lunatic, she would probably still be alive
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
If you can't control it from that point you should not be in the job

As for political leaning, wasn't you on here moaning about not wishing death on anyone because of politics, changed your tune here ey...........
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Nope I still don't wish death to anyone so tune not changed. I said if she was not acting like a left wing lunatic she would still be alive.

So that's not me wishing her dead is it. I thought you were meant to be intelligent. Try comprehending English, the is no wishing her physical harm but stating my opinion not had she not behaved in a certain way she would still be alive.

What you are doing is very dangerous and deceitful. I have at no time regarding this incident wished her or anyone else harm. I am stating the opinion that her actions put her in the position where her safety was risked.

Guess what I would do if in my car and an official was in front of me. Well I would not be driving straight at them for one thing.

You act like an idiot you run the risk of getting shot.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Nope I still don't wish death to anyone so tune not changed. I said if she was not acting like a left wing lunatic she would still be alive.
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Its a massive lack of compassion which plays to the same point, you are the one acting like Jive Bunny repeating the stuff about politics when everyone else is just dealing with the killing itself.

Can't you drag yourself out of whatever magic mushroomed rabbit hole you are down and maybe be a little more compassionate
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Its a massive lack of compassion which plays to the same point, you are the one acting like Jive Bunny repeating the stuff about politics when everyone else is just dealing with the killing itself.

Can't you drag yourself out of whatever magic mushroomed rabbit hole you are down and maybe be a little more compassionate
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Oh ok, terribly sorry.

I have shown compassion loads of times, but often on topics unpalatable to the far left.

Not sure how a bloke in Sussex discussing it on a message board being compassionate can change what happened. But let me try, my heart breaks so much for the death of this unfortunate lady, I do however feel if she had perhaps driven in a more stable manner then the law enforcement officer would not have taken the course of action he did.

You know what you are right, I now feel a smug sense of satisfaction.

Not sure what the magic mushroom comment is in reference to but I guess if you do not like someone else's opinion then the best thing to do if you can not debate it is to try and demean them with slurs. I shall refrain for doing that to you and others on here as it is clear I wish to only debate in a mature and controlled manner with a peaceful exchange of ideas.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Not sure what the magic mushroom comment is in reference to but I guess if you do not like someone else's opinion then the best thing to do if you can not debate it is to try and demean them with slurs. I shall refrain for doing that to you and others on here as it is clear I wish to only debate in a mature and controlled manner with a peaceful exchange of ideas.
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Again you are one of the only ones mentioning political leaning on the subject, its like an obsession.

As for this, Its reference to the fact your posts go of on weird and wonderful tangents, often not to do with the subject but on why you can't feel a certain way about things, often not sticking to the subject. Thats the reference, and maybe I was wrong but I was sure you were one on here boasting about drug taking previously, so just made a throw away link, if thats wrong, I am wrong and apologise
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Again you are one of the only ones mentioning political leaning on the subject, its like an obsession.

As for this, Its reference to the fact your posts go of on weird and wonderful tangents, often not to do with the subject but on why you can't feel a certain way about things, often not sticking to the subject. Thats the reference, and maybe I was wrong but I was sure you were one on here boasting about drug taking previously, so just made a throw away link, if thats wrong, I am wrong and apologise
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Not taken anything recreational in many years.

But the incident is directly linked to politics as she was protesting the work of officials. So it is clearly linked to politics.

I can not stand Starmer(and i actually got fooled into voting for him) but if i were out protesting a law his government had passed and was in a vehicle that was driven at law enforcement officers. Well you know I would run the very real risk of being shot. Not rocket science is it.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
This is like the Chris Kaba shooting in the UK. A vehicle is a weapon. A very powerful and lethal one. This is recognised in criminal and civil law. In personal injury cases involving vehicles colliding with pedestrians UK law recognises that the fault is always heavily weighted towards the driver and the established case precent for that actually cites the words "a driver is in command of a lethal weapon".

When officers are engaging with a person in control of a vehicle which then moves when they are in close proximity following a command to stop/take hands off the wheel, they have effectively been engaged with a weapon. That is protocol and that is the law here and in the US and people jump to conclusions based on snippets of footage and 3rd hand accounts. It will be the law that judges whether the officer's use of force was commensurate to the threat and whether they followed protocol. Ultimately, what you have here is yet another person that decided to drive their vehicle when commanded by armed law enforcement officers to stop......they created their own death situation no matter how much fault/blame you place on the officer - she is the one that has forced a split second judgement call in a tense and volatile situation.

Footage clearly shows she drove off when the agent had their hand on her door attempting to open it so the agent is 100% at risk/in danger at that moment and has effectively been attacked. Their response being proportionate to the risk will be examined now by the law
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The agent had no legitimacy in the situation. The car was not preventing ICE going about their business at that time. ICE have no authority AT ALL beyond immigration. She wasn't an immigrant and they knew that. They were acting outisde of the law.
 
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