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What difference does it make to you if your neighbours are of a different race or nationality? Or the guy who drives the train, picks the fruit, packs the amazon parcel? I personally couldn't care less if the person is white and English or black and Portuguese or whatever. I don't really see what difference it makes. Nobody is forcing me to go a mosque or wear a weave. If I want to, I suppose I can. But I don't have to.

The problems in the UK are that there are poor areas. They generate crime and often, there are foreigners or people of foreign descent living in those areas, so people attribute the crime to the race/nationality. But if you look at poorer places with lots of white people, you see the same for drugs and crime (think about rough council estates in Scotland for example, or trailer parks in the American South). So yeah, I don't really care if I'm a minority in my own country, should my daughter grow up and not be classed as British because she isn't a "pure bred" national? Who gives a sh1t? The country is whatever it is, there's always been different people "coming over here" and there always will be, unless we become a pure sh1thole of a country where nobody wants to come anymore.

Oi! Do England not have rough council estates? Or is that you using a stereotype and perpetuating a typical lazy Englishmans myth about Bonnie Scotland?

Bigot!
 
@the dza

I asked you a simple question ...if you can't answer it then fine ...

https://www.ukpopulation.org/london-population/

After the UK Census of 2011, it had revealed that about 37% of the London’s populace is based on immigrants that came from various parts of the world. Due to such large amount of foreigners, it is proclaimed that London is the second largest city, incorporating such figures of emigrants after New York City. By gender, females make up of 52% of the London’s population while the remaining 48% comes into the male’s hand. The standard age of London’s inhabitants is about 40 and half years.


London is a multi-racial city. 59.8% out of the total population are White, among which 44.9% are White-British, 2.2% of Irish White and 12.2% of White from various parts of globe.

Asians are filling 20.9% of the London populace. Asian statistics include 6.6% of Indians, 2.7% of Pakistan and 2.7% of Bangladesh. 1.5% of the population is covered by Chinese, with 1.3% of Arabs dwelling the Mainland and the rest came from various area of Asia.

15.6% of Black and mixed-black ancestries cover up the London’s population. Among those, 13.3% belong to absolute Black ancestries and only 2.3% of them are from mixed-Black ancestries. 7.0% of Black Africans constitute in the London populace, with 4.2% of Black Caribbean and 2.1% of Black belonging to other tribes, make up the list and 5% of population is based on half-breeds.

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White British people are the largest ethnic group living in London by quite a distance. How does someone choose the demographic makeup of a major western city? I can't think of any of them that don't have a major mix of races/nationalities. They all seem much safer and more prosperous than most other cities though. I think I'd rather live in New York or London than Moscow, for example. Not that I think Moscow is particularly bad, but it's much more homogenous in it's demographics than it's western counter-parts and I don't see it as a much more prosperous or safer place than those cities.
 
Oi! Do England not have rough council estates? Or is that you using a stereotype and perpetuating a typical lazy Englishmans myth about Bonnie Scotland?

Bigot!

Not at all, I was just thinking of places in the UK where the rough area might be predominantly White-British. I probably could have named a bunch of smaller towns across England for the same thing. But I am a lazy Englishman, so you have got me banged to rights there haha.
 
Not at all, I was just thinking of places in the UK where the rough area might be predominantly White-British. I probably could have named a bunch of smaller towns across England for the same thing. But I am a lazy Englishman, so you have got me banged to rights there haha.

They might be white but not British, its all them micks.




Tongue is very firmly in cheek, btw just in case its not obvious.
 
Advocate general for CJEU has determined that Article 50 is unilaterally revocable as long as the notification is constitutionally legitimate and not abusive. Good timing. Court likely to follow the determination.
 
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/12...rom-britain-but-because-of-corbyn-not-brexit/

Anecdotal I know, but my recent experience tells the same thing. We have a couple of very large customers who have manufacturing facilities near both our UK and central European factories. As well as modelling how much capacity can be brought back here if there's a hard Brexit, we're also modelling how much capacity can be shifted to central Europe if Labour start fudging up minimum wage and CT.
 
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/12...rom-britain-but-because-of-corbyn-not-brexit/

Anecdotal I know, but my recent experience tells the same thing. We have a couple of very large customers who have manufacturing facilities near both our UK and central European factories. As well as modelling how much capacity can be bought back here if there's a hard Brexit, we're also modelling how much capacity can be shifted to central Europe if Labour start fudging up minimum wage and CT.

Once you employ scenario modellers, they find new contingencies to worry the board with and keep the work flowing. Labour in government is plausible, the Corbynite cabal having a reliable enough majority to do anything genuinely damaging is much, much less so.

We've disagreed before on minimum wage, of course. And CT only affects businesses which have structured themselves in such a way that they opt to declare profits.
 
Advocate general for CJEU has determined that Article 50 is unilaterally revocable as long as the notification is constitutionally legitimate and not abusive. Good timing. Court likely to follow the determination.
It's an interesting one. Sets the scene for an extension of A50 and new negotiations by a different Government.
 
You're correct, mass immigration from around the world will not be halted merely by Brexit but, a hard Brexit is a step that we have to take, if we're to ever rid ourselves of the cultural marxism that has infested Parliament, our Civil Service and our Education system.

The United Nations Migration Pact, fully endorsed by the EU Commision, is on the table for treacherous Western Governments to sigh up too.

There's numerous videos about it but they're being taken down by the leftist Silicon Valley indoctrinators, as quickly as they're being posted...

I suggest people stop yapping 99% about the economy and look at a more pressing issue.



I see.
You do, first of all, understand that the two at this stage in Britain's economy are intrinsically related?
I mean look, if you don't see that, I will happily explain, but for now, I'll save us both the trouble on the basis that anyone with a brain knows this.

Your "cultural marxism" stuff? Sounds like the sort of fear-mongering Farage-sque line thrown around to convince people that there is some giant socialist-liberal machine slowly blanketing society. It really does. You might not mean it that way, but believe me, it comes across that way. BTW, how on EARTH has it "infested our education system?" You'll need to explain that one clearly.

Finally, and again not sure if you don't care or don't know, many refugees that are looking for entry into European nations are doing so because of various disgraceful situations in their homelands exacerbated by western involvement.

I think we will see Brexit prove itself to have been a massive financial jolly for the rarified few who can both afford to ride the inevitable recession which it will bring, and enjoy any fruits which might be found a few years down the line.
I don't understand why people cannot see a few simple facts.
The UK is a massive service economy. It is not a manufacturing giant. So can someone explain to me WHAT we will trade with the US, China, Australia? I believe the US has plenty of decent financial services already, certainly enough to where they won't be looking to us to rebuild their financial systems (!!), as for China, please, help me out, what? Australia? Same thing. Cars and "machinery"? Because our service economy will be smashed apart.

Who will do all the jobs current migrants and refugees end up doing? Who is going to do those jobs/engage on that usual level of skill?
 
It's an interesting one. Sets the scene for an extension of A50 and new negotiations by a different Government.

I thought the opposite: revocation as an alternative to extension, and consideration of the options, rather than new negotiations - Royal Commission, perhaps -to be presented to the electorate again in 2022. No change of government necessary. DUP and Tories in harmony again. Leavers can maintain the purity of their unicorn Brexits, rather than tainting them with reality.
 
Once you employ scenario modellers, they find new contingencies to worry the board with and keep the work flowing. Labour in government is plausible, the Corbynite cabal having a reliable enough majority to do anything genuinely damaging is much, much less so.

We've disagreed before on minimum wage, of course. And CT only affects businesses which have structured themselves in such a way that they opt to declare profits.
We're not that size of business. I modelled this myself because our customers are (rightly) worried about an increase in CT and MW under a Corbyn government. They don't want to be declaring profits or cutting margins here and, under that scenario, neither do we.

Again, as an SME, choosing to declare profits or not is a matter of a few %, there's no real ability to completely disappear profits - not over the length of a parliament or two. We have overseas sites, some transfer pricing can be manipulated, but not to the extent that all of our profits can be moved to a more reasonable tax domain. Even if they could, there would be little or no profits to move due to the minimum wage and strengthening of collective bargaining that a Corbyn government would ensure.

I hope your analysis of Corbyn's inability to force change from within his own party is accurate, but I don't see it. He's already shown that he has a backing of hardcore trots who are happy to force out centrist members of their own party and label them as their enemy. Those ends of the political spectrum are hardly strangers to authoritarian rule and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them encourage a split within their own party so that Corbyn has complete control his portion, propped up by the likes of the SNP.
 
We're not that size of business. I modelled this myself because our customers are (rightly) worried about an increase in CT and MW under a Corbyn government. They don't want to be declaring profits or cutting margins here and, under that scenario, neither do we.

Again, as an SME, choosing to declare profits or not is a matter of a few %, there's no real ability to completely disappear profits - not over the length of a parliament or two. We have overseas sites, some transfer pricing can be manipulated, but not to the extent that all of our profits can be moved to a more reasonable tax domain. Even if they could, there would be little or no profits to move due to the minimum wage and strengthening of collective bargaining that a Corbyn government would ensure.

I hope your analysis of Corbyn's inability to force change from within his own party is accurate, but I don't see it. He's already shown that he has a backing of hardcore trots who are happy to force out centrist members of their own party and label them as their enemy. Those ends of the political spectrum are hardly strangers to authoritarian rule and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them encourage a split within their own party so that Corbyn has complete control his portion, propped up by the likes of the SNP.

Fair enough on the CT piece. I'm a microbusiness owner and have been on the SLTs of bigger concerns, but those have all been services businesses, and in quite frothy sectors, where revenue and profit recognition is much more contingent and there are always M&A considerations or losses elsewhere to muddy the waters. Manufacturing is obviously different and I'll take your word for it.

The SNP are nationalists who happen to have borrowed lefty clothes. They aren't Trots. Can't see them on team Milne and McCluskey. And deselection is a bit of a paper tiger in CLPs - also, Momentum is now completely split off from the hardcore lefties. There isn't the grassroots pressure to support the leader's cabal that there was in 2016.
 
Brexit was “criminal” as any con-trick is!
Badly thought out, a disaster from start.

It’s a lesson on how not to run a referendum.
As i stated previously, there should have been two votes. One offering the various models and then a second as to whether Brexit went through. Totally brainless this shower of brick is.
 
It's not nonsense, it's a draft that can be found on the UN web site and although it's not a legally binding document under international law, it's a precursor to one.

Here's a PDF link for your perusal.
https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sites/default/files/180711_final_draft_0.pdf

The UN's agenda is clearly for open borders and to take away any resistance by democratically elected government and their right to self determination. They want these governments to clamp down on any resistance be it in media or from within their populations. The draft does not even want persons and organisations to be allowed to call some forms of migration, "illegal economic migration" even if it is and it will be deemed a hate crime to do so. In fact, posts such as this will be deemed illegal!

The UN draft wants governments to set up global identical specialist administrations to deal with what they see as an ever increasing inflow into nations, in otherwards, to take away the sovereign right of national government to deal with their own illegal immigration, in their own way - Hungary's government is a good example. They want illegal immigrants to be aided on arrival with sheltered accommodation, mobile phones, money, bank accounts and the rest.

Migration to any country of one's choosing, is not a human right and should never supersede the right of refusal.

With regards to the rest of your post...I stand by my claim that the vast majority of the MPs in Parliament are cultural marxists. Conservative MPs by enlarge are self-serving and lily-livered, Kowtowing to cultural marxism. The main opposition are cultural marxists as they hate the idea of the UK being viewed as white so are seeking fast demographic change.. Non white immigration is votes for them, leading to their bigger government and higher taxes, more power to them.. Both Labour and the SNP under Corbyn and Sturgeon respectively, are marxist.


Also, I've seen on other postings of yours, that you call yourself centrist, you do this because it makes you feel good as you're also telling yourself that you're tolerant and morally superior. Calling yourself centrist does not make you one, even more so as you also call yourself a Blairite. Tony Blair helped instigate the mass murder and maiming of millions and in my book, that hardly makes him centrist.

Tin foil hat at the ready? Maybe, but some say, that as PM, Blair was our very own Putin...

John Smiths death convenient.
Robin Cook death convenient.
Dr John Kelly's death convenient.
Jill Dando's death convenient.
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Finally, making friends.. You've insinuated racism on my part and that's twice now that you've openly encouraged Glory Glory's very own Weyman Bennett nut-job, by giving him likes to his posts smearing me. Coming from you, some who thinks it's funny to use racial slurs is laughable...


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http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/politics-politics-politics.6328/page-682#post-1033447

My father is greek, not from Palmers Green but he is greek...

Oh the irony! He just couldn't resist could he? Had to bring up a conspiracy theory. Ha, ha,ha! :eek: BTW, there are racist Greeks
 
As i stated previously, there should have been two votes.

Not without merit as an idea.

But I think there should be an enquiry into Brexit.
Laws and procedures need to be drawn up to prevent the Brexits of the referendum world.

Nothing wrong with wanting to leave the EU. But we have to prevent the likes of and in this example, the Barmy army highjacking the whole process and talking gonad*s.
I use the word 'process' in its broadest meaning.

By all means, leave, stay or paint the houses of parliament in rainbow colours.
But there must be laws set up to explain how much the paint will cost and what poor sod will be put in charge of the painters!
 
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I blame deep-fried Mars bars

By all means, leave, stay or paint the houses of parliament in rainbow colours.
But there must be laws set up to explain how much the paint will cost and what poor sod will be put in charge of the painters!

A racist dig at our oppressed brothers and sisters in occupied North Britain, and then a callously sexist suggestion that the PM's intransigence is down to having the painters in.

Is there a protected characteristic you won't have a pop at today?
 
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