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Politics, politics, politics

glasgowspur said:
Finding a way to store electricity is the scientific holy grail and would extremely profitable, but if an understatement. Yet no one seems even close to being able to do on a mass scale. So what happens in winter when it minus 5, snowing and no or little wind? We all freeze and politicians come up with more bull****.
Being green is a con of epic proportions.
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We can still be "green" and use nuclear power - it works all year round, has a predictable output and if we need coal/gas backup they can be mothballed until needed.
 
Yes, nuclear would be my least worse choice for now.
If I remember right Germany decided to scrap their nuclear power after Fukushima. Crazy, when was the last tsunami in central Europe!
 
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Your spirit animal is Nick Clegg! Although you're not a dyed in the wool Conservative, you've got enough Tory pals to be guilty by association.

(I now love my above post!)
 
glasgowspur said:
Yes, nuclear would be my least worse choice for now.
If I remember right Germany decided to scrap their nuclear power after Fukushima. Crazy, when was the last tsunami in central Europe!
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They were going to move away from nuclear anyway, but Fukushima made them decide to do so more quickly, irrc. If anyone is going to make green energy work, it will be German engineers!
 
the dza said:
They were going to move away from nuclear anyway, but Fukushima made them decide to do so more quickly, irrc. If anyone is going to make green energy work, it will be German engineers!
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That makes a bit more sense, any idea why they were doing it in the first place?
 
glasgowspur said:
That makes a bit more sense, any idea why they were doing it in the first place?
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Purely politics.

Much of the German electorate remains horribly misinformed and lacks the understanding of properly applied statistics to make a sensible decision on the risks of nuclear power. The government had been pushed in that direction for years and simply accelerated because of Fukushima.

Another thing I discovered reading up on this is that the move towards wind turbines has added 50% to the average energy bill in Germany over the last two years. Something worth keeping in mind for those who support such actions.
 
because the SNP has rammed wind turbines down our throats up here I've got a fair idea of ge pitfalls of them. To make it worse we've tried solar and wave with even less success and all subsidised by the public purse.
 
I think the Germans are also doing it for economic reasons -- they want to lead the world in green/renewable technology and will look to export more and more as the market grows (and it surely will, unless some other technological advance blows it out of the water). They are pretty good at exporting their engineering/tech prowess.
 
Tesla are trying to do it on a consumer level and have some new batteries coming out that can store electricity, they see it as a way to run it when it's cheaper off peak store it and release it during peak hours when it's more expensive.
 
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