It doesn't exacerbate it. It directly plays a part in creating the ghetto. The ghetto wouldn't exist otherwise.
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It doesn't exacerbate it. It directly plays a part in creating the ghetto. The ghetto wouldn't exist otherwise.
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
Someone came out from MI5 in the last year and said the biggest threat to this country is China and Russia, so I imagine its more your opinion that fact TBH.
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MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
kb 1984
Gheorge Popescu
100,% this I grew up in Tottenham & Wood Green I had friends from all races & religions & they were some of the nicest people you will ever meet. Guess what not once was I called a white clam by anyone from an ethnic background. Unlike them who had to put up with vile crap.
Rorschach
Mel Hopkins
Here's a more positive spin on UK multiculturalism.
samf.substack.com
Edit: I would urge everyone interested in this topic to read Empireland (Sathnam Sangera). Excellent book.
The Truth About Integration
I have been challenged by readers to write something less depressing about the state of the country.
samf.substack.com
Edit: I would urge everyone interested in this topic to read Empireland (Sathnam Sangera). Excellent book.
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MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
And I will be frank, I have walked in South London and been called honky, but I don't then cast a wide net on South London as some anti white "Ghetto"...........you take some things as anecdotal and treat everyone else as you take them,
Some of the best times of my life have been in mixed ethnicity surroundings
Gazza
Paul Robinson
No mate, more people kill and die on the back of religious bias. Worse is that they directly quote religious text and ideals.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Im not sure my whiteness has ever been commented on. Well except being reprimanded 'put on some sun cream you pastey gringo' when in south america. Its our privilege to never ever really have to consider stuff like our race, because of structural inequalities we benefit from. There's no zero sum game trying to change that and give everyone that privilege though, it just improves the world.
MartyFunkhouser
Terry Dyson
I like the exploration of change and what multiculturalism brings with that, thats why I work in travel.
It's not perfect, buts it's better than going to Spain demanding Ham Egg and Chips
This isn't true in modern history. Both the world wars were not based on religion.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
It massively improves the gene pool too. I mean, have you ever been to places without migration and seen the state of the locals. Habsburg chins all round, and that's about the best that can be said of them.
Gazza
Paul Robinson
I like how you said modern history … throughout the ages I would hedge a bet it would be religion roughly at 100million from what I have read.
No. I've the last 150 years it has been over 100 million and the majority were not religious wars. What have you been reading?
The biggest cause of death in wars has been communism in the last 150 years. If you go further back the Atlantic slave trade killed more than you could imagine.
For you @Gazza
Death tolls from major non-religious wars
Non-religious wars account for most of history's deadliest conflicts, particularly in the 20th century.
World War II (1939–1945): 50 to 85 million deaths, the deadliest conflict in human history. The conflict was primarily driven by political ideologies like fascism and expansionist nationalism.
World War I (1914–1918): Over 15 million deaths, spurred by factors including rising nationalism, imperialism, and complex alliance systems.
Stalin's Reign of Terror (1923–1954): In the Soviet Union, democide (state-sponsored killing) under the anti-religious regime caused 38–55 million deaths.
Mao Zedong's Regime: The communist government of China was responsible for 44.5–77 million deaths through policies like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution.
Mongol Conquests (13th century): Driven by territorial expansion, these conquests killed tens of millions of people.
Death tolls from major religious wars
While deadly, major conflicts with a primary religious motivation pale in comparison to the largest non-religious wars.
Taiping Rebellion (1850–1864): Though infused with Christian ideology by its leader, this was a civil war with complex motives that resulted in 20–70 million deaths.
Thirty Years' War (1618–1648): A brutal conflict in Europe involving both religious and political motives, causing 4–8 million deaths. The war was fought between Protestant and Catholic states but also involved major non-religious political alliances.
The Crusades (1095–1291): These series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims in the Middle East are estimated to have caused 1–3 million deaths.
Historiographical perspective
Many historians caution against assigning simple motivations like "religion" to complex events.
A widely cited analysis of the Encyclopedia of Wars found that out of 1,763 conflicts throughout history, only 123 (less than 7%) had religion as their primary cause.
Many of the deadliest atrocities of the 20th century were driven by political ideologies such as communism and fascism, not religion.
Some scholars argue that equating institutional religion with violence overlooks the devastating cruelty perpetrated by secular institutions, especially in the 20th century.
Death tolls from major non-religious wars
Non-religious wars account for most of history's deadliest conflicts, particularly in the 20th century.
World War II (1939–1945): 50 to 85 million deaths, the deadliest conflict in human history. The conflict was primarily driven by political ideologies like fascism and expansionist nationalism.
World War I (1914–1918): Over 15 million deaths, spurred by factors including rising nationalism, imperialism, and complex alliance systems.
Stalin's Reign of Terror (1923–1954): In the Soviet Union, democide (state-sponsored killing) under the anti-religious regime caused 38–55 million deaths.
Mao Zedong's Regime: The communist government of China was responsible for 44.5–77 million deaths through policies like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution.
Mongol Conquests (13th century): Driven by territorial expansion, these conquests killed tens of millions of people.
Death tolls from major religious wars
While deadly, major conflicts with a primary religious motivation pale in comparison to the largest non-religious wars.
Taiping Rebellion (1850–1864): Though infused with Christian ideology by its leader, this was a civil war with complex motives that resulted in 20–70 million deaths.
Thirty Years' War (1618–1648): A brutal conflict in Europe involving both religious and political motives, causing 4–8 million deaths. The war was fought between Protestant and Catholic states but also involved major non-religious political alliances.
The Crusades (1095–1291): These series of religious wars between Christians and Muslims in the Middle East are estimated to have caused 1–3 million deaths.
Historiographical perspective
Many historians caution against assigning simple motivations like "religion" to complex events.
A widely cited analysis of the Encyclopedia of Wars found that out of 1,763 conflicts throughout history, only 123 (less than 7%) had religion as their primary cause.
Many of the deadliest atrocities of the 20th century were driven by political ideologies such as communism and fascism, not religion.
Some scholars argue that equating institutional religion with violence overlooks the devastating cruelty perpetrated by secular institutions, especially in the 20th century.
Silly McSilly Face
Kasey Keller
The biggest state threat, yes. More MI6's bag that (MI6 = foreign threat, MI5 = internal threat). It 100% isn't my opinion. It is a fact.
Silly McSilly Face
Kasey Keller
Bit of a caveat i'd add is that e.g. the technological capability to inflict mass casualties was off the scale in WW1 and 2 compared to e.g. the crusades etc.
Lol there are no facts when it comes to a secret service. It's in the name
Tell that to the Mongols.