Rorschach
Sonny Walters
It is worth pointing out that Israel/Netanyahu were funders and collaborators with Hamas themselves. It suited them at the time.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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Lost Mango
Goran Bunjevcevic
Hamas also provide the only meaningful social support network in Gaza, they are not 'just' a terrorist organisation. That is one of the reasons they were politically successful in 2005 land what presented an opportunity for engagement then which Israel and the West deliberately chose to reject/ignore). The removal (if it can be done which I doubt) of Hamas would leave a infrastructural/socio-political vacuum that the PA seems unable to fill.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
That's why Barghouti is the key. He's the ramp off for both Hamas and Fatah. Even a potential Mandela figure. Its why Netanyahu fears him so much.
In some ways northern ireland only found peace when the terrorists came into government, i.e. when Sein Fein and the DUP de facto replaced he moderate SDLP and UU as the governing parties.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Here we go.
jrh
Steve Hodge
12 slow-moving drones likely to be intercepted. Hopefully just for show and nothing more comes of it.
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Not surprising after those ridiculous assassinations at embassies and Netanyahu going full nut job.
Hopefully this prompts the big boys (China and the US) to rein their wayward kids back in.
Hopefully this prompts the big boys (China and the US) to rein their wayward kids back in.
Mikey10
Pat van den Hauwe
Ah, excellent. Having seen the world beginning to get back to some kind of normal after the pandemic I was hoping that WW3 might come along.
Craig_J
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Which 4?
Not off limits, just home soil. Usually left alone as it's tantamount to an invasion.
There's some debate as to whether the building the terrorist was in forms part of the embassy though.
Announcing it was done before the drones even got to Israel does suggest it was all for show.
Reminded me of that goon when Adebayor did the knee slide, who so desperately wanted to get onto the pitch. If only his friends had stopped holding him back......
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Quite possibly a greater understanding of Israel's defences for its enemies, but not one that's likely to embolden them.
And let's not forget, every Iranian drone blasted out of the sky by Israel is an Iranian drone not being chucked at a Ukrainian school.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
I've seen this point being made by a few military strategists.
Iran had to respond to the embassay attack so this missle launch seemed proportionate to an extent (unlike Israel's response in Gaza), and had strategic benefits. Netanyahu would like nothing more than this to kick off and keep him in power that much longer but it seems this might be the beginning and end of this chapter. One hopes it is anyway.
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Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Someone on the interweb got a bit carried away and said hezbollah, yemen, etc were joining in which was not the case.
I'm not so sure. Iran have shown how weak they are with an inability and/or unwillingness to react further.
Peace is good, but so is completely crushing your enemy to a point where they can't return.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Two nuclear nations led by religious zealous running quasi-fascist regimes. The only outcome of escalation at this point is mutually assured destruction.
Both need full-scale internal uprisings to bring a bit of liberalism and humanity back to the top of their societies.