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Gordinho
Banned
Re: Boo Boys.
Not at all, it was an attempt to tease GGG out of hiding-and it worked.
Not at all, it was an attempt to tease GGG out of hiding-and it worked.
Lily White
Clive Wilson
Re: Boo Boys.
Booing is counter-productive, it just puts the players under greater pressure and their heads might drop. Getting behind the team, singing, chanting etc is so much more productive. You all must of seen what happened to our Olympians and paralympians when the crowds were behind them, it gives them that extra drive and determination.
If you are a boo boy, go and stand in front of a mirror and start booing, you will realise that you look like a complete taco.
Booing is counter-productive, it just puts the players under greater pressure and their heads might drop. Getting behind the team, singing, chanting etc is so much more productive. You all must of seen what happened to our Olympians and paralympians when the crowds were behind them, it gives them that extra drive and determination.
If you are a boo boy, go and stand in front of a mirror and start booing, you will realise that you look like a complete taco.
southstand1882
Mitchell Thomas
Re: Boo Boys.
I think the anti-boo boys should stand up at work, or in front of their family, and give a presentation on how they wrote passionately about booing on a message board
How would that compare on the "taco" scale to somebody booing at themselves in the mirror
I know which I'd prefer to do
I think the anti-boo boys should stand up at work, or in front of their family, and give a presentation on how they wrote passionately about booing on a message board
How would that compare on the "taco" scale to somebody booing at themselves in the mirror
I know which I'd prefer to do
Gordinho
Banned
Re: Boo Boys.
I still think that there's a lot of holier than thou types have contributed to this thread though, I see lot of worse behaviour than booing at most matches.
As much as I condone the concept of expressing an opinion if I don't think the players have put a shift in singling out individual players is just wrong.
I still think that there's a lot of holier than thou types have contributed to this thread though, I see lot of worse behaviour than booing at most matches.
Lily White
Clive Wilson
Park Lane James
Andy Sinton
Re: Boo Boys.
It is possible, you know, to stay the full 90 minutes plus added time and still not boo when the ref blows the final whistle!
What seems to have been lost, at an early stage of this discussion, is any semblance of context.
It is the beginning of September. Not the end of February.
We've played three games. Three fudging games! That's all. We've lost a bunch of our best players. Their replacements haven't yet had time to play / train / properly acclimatise. The whole team is getting used to a new manager, a new type of training and new tactics.
Anyone who expected everything to fall into place instantly hasn't got a fudging clue.
So, regardless of whether booing can be justified (and I think it can), it most certainly isn't justified yet. And, what's more, it is almost always counter productive. How brainless must the boo boys be? Unless they want Spurs / AVB to fail?
As I said, 12 pages back, if the crowd themselves had performed at all, they might have earned the right to boo. But they were utter dogbrick. We are rapidly becoming the least supportive crowd in the Premier League. Every bit as bad as that lot at the Emirates. Don't kid yourselves otherwise.
It is possible, you know, to stay the full 90 minutes plus added time and still not boo when the ref blows the final whistle!
What seems to have been lost, at an early stage of this discussion, is any semblance of context.
It is the beginning of September. Not the end of February.
We've played three games. Three fudging games! That's all. We've lost a bunch of our best players. Their replacements haven't yet had time to play / train / properly acclimatise. The whole team is getting used to a new manager, a new type of training and new tactics.
Anyone who expected everything to fall into place instantly hasn't got a fudging clue.
So, regardless of whether booing can be justified (and I think it can), it most certainly isn't justified yet. And, what's more, it is almost always counter productive. How brainless must the boo boys be? Unless they want Spurs / AVB to fail?
As I said, 12 pages back, if the crowd themselves had performed at all, they might have earned the right to boo. But they were utter dogbrick. We are rapidly becoming the least supportive crowd in the Premier League. Every bit as bad as that lot at the Emirates. Don't kid yourselves otherwise.
Gordinho
Banned
Re: Boo Boys.
I agree, I don't think I suggested otherwise. And I don't want Spurs or AVB to fail, I have my reservations about him but would love to have them proved groundless. I just don't think that the odd boo is the hanging offence some people would have you believe, nor have I took part in it.
I agree, I don't think I suggested otherwise. And I don't want Spurs or AVB to fail, I have my reservations about him but would love to have them proved groundless. I just don't think that the odd boo is the hanging offence some people would have you believe, nor have I took part in it.
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
Re: Boo Boys.
Fair play mate. Gives me some perspective, I used to do my nut if the 34 from Barnet to Edmonton was running late on matchdays!
Fair play mate. Gives me some perspective, I used to do my nut if the 34 from Barnet to Edmonton was running late on matchdays!
Re: Boo Boys.
Just for clarification, the greater body of my post wasn't aimed at you!
Just for clarification, the greater body of my post wasn't aimed at you!
edgey-the-yid
Gheorge Popescu
I was embarrassed and disgusted at the Norwich game. Its arguable that the booing at full time was aimed at the ref after sending off Thudd, but at Half time the boos were clearly aimed at the team... And more suprisingly most of the booing came from the Southstand and not the Paxton end
I probably sound like a stuck record given that I've found myself making this point in various threads over the past couple of seasons.
But we really are brick now. A steaming pile of dog poo. Every bit as bad as that lot at the Emirates. And maybe worse, because it's only taken a couple of seasons of mere flirtation with success for us to sink so low.
Where was the atmosphere last night? Non existent. We allowed Lazio fans the freedom of White Hart Lane. Embarrassing. A damning indictment on English fandom. A poor show for the rest of Europe. Perhaps if we had created anything remotely close to an intimidating atmosphere - or at least sounded as if we actually cared - some of those crucial decisions that went against us might not have gone against us.
How quickly we have fallen. It's not long ago that White Hart Lane was widely spoken of as having one of the very best atmospheres in England. Now, it would struggle to have the best atmosphere on the moon. The only people who still talk about the special atmosphere at White Hart Lane are deluded Spurs fans or PR savvy Spurs players and staff, eager to flatter the fans.
It's come to the point that going to White Hart Lane is no fun any more - even if the football is superb. I find myself constantly ashamed by the echoing lone voices punctuating an otherwise eerie silence. Even the away fans at Reading were stuffed dummies for most of the 90 minutes. Live football should be almost as much about the crowd as it is about the action on the pitch. If it isn't, then you're better off saving your money and getting a much better view at home on the TV.
We have to do something to arrest this steep decline. Soon. The club have to do something. I know that people hate the idea of singing sections. But why? That's effectively (minus the baggage) what ultras groups on the continent are. They are organised. They make a show. They make a noise. We had all of that for the NextGen game against Barca. A bit of organisation. 1882. A philosophy. Constant singing throughout. A 600 strong group of like minded, diehard Spurs fans got together and created a superb atmosphere. And if we can muster 600 such fans for a youth team game, just think how many we could get for a first team game. Just imagine it for every game. Don't give me nonsense about it being embarrassing to have a singing section.
It might not be possible to accommodate such a group until the inevitable reshuffle that will follow the move into the new stadium. But we should start thinking about it now. The single tier end MUST be reserved first and foremost for fans who genuinely want to sing - preferably throughout every match. No naysayers. No "siddaaaaahn"ers. No arms folded passengers. No moaners. No perpetual texters. No game ignoring chatters.
Tottenham Hotspur could have all the things that a great club apparently needs - great players; great training facility; great stadium. But it won't be a truly great club if it no longer has the one thing that it could always depend upon throughout its history - great fans.
Time to act.
But we really are brick now. A steaming pile of dog poo. Every bit as bad as that lot at the Emirates. And maybe worse, because it's only taken a couple of seasons of mere flirtation with success for us to sink so low.
Where was the atmosphere last night? Non existent. We allowed Lazio fans the freedom of White Hart Lane. Embarrassing. A damning indictment on English fandom. A poor show for the rest of Europe. Perhaps if we had created anything remotely close to an intimidating atmosphere - or at least sounded as if we actually cared - some of those crucial decisions that went against us might not have gone against us.
How quickly we have fallen. It's not long ago that White Hart Lane was widely spoken of as having one of the very best atmospheres in England. Now, it would struggle to have the best atmosphere on the moon. The only people who still talk about the special atmosphere at White Hart Lane are deluded Spurs fans or PR savvy Spurs players and staff, eager to flatter the fans.
It's come to the point that going to White Hart Lane is no fun any more - even if the football is superb. I find myself constantly ashamed by the echoing lone voices punctuating an otherwise eerie silence. Even the away fans at Reading were stuffed dummies for most of the 90 minutes. Live football should be almost as much about the crowd as it is about the action on the pitch. If it isn't, then you're better off saving your money and getting a much better view at home on the TV.
We have to do something to arrest this steep decline. Soon. The club have to do something. I know that people hate the idea of singing sections. But why? That's effectively (minus the baggage) what ultras groups on the continent are. They are organised. They make a show. They make a noise. We had all of that for the NextGen game against Barca. A bit of organisation. 1882. A philosophy. Constant singing throughout. A 600 strong group of like minded, diehard Spurs fans got together and created a superb atmosphere. And if we can muster 600 such fans for a youth team game, just think how many we could get for a first team game. Just imagine it for every game. Don't give me nonsense about it being embarrassing to have a singing section.
It might not be possible to accommodate such a group until the inevitable reshuffle that will follow the move into the new stadium. But we should start thinking about it now. The single tier end MUST be reserved first and foremost for fans who genuinely want to sing - preferably throughout every match. No naysayers. No "siddaaaaahn"ers. No arms folded passengers. No moaners. No perpetual texters. No game ignoring chatters.
Tottenham Hotspur could have all the things that a great club apparently needs - great players; great training facility; great stadium. But it won't be a truly great club if it no longer has the one thing that it could always depend upon throughout its history - great fans.
Time to act.
Paxtonloudmouth
Michael Brown
I agree,I also try and sing all game if possible. I also think a new selection of chants for the new players would help. I think people are tired of the same old songs every week. The 1882 night was the best atmosphere at the Lane for the last couple of years.
It was virtually all Lazio.
On my Sony 5.1 it was all Lazio fans
Naughton16
Clive Wilson
The point about decisions going our way is a good one. Thats something Saudi Sportswashing Machine fans get every week.
I'm not saying we start behaving like neanderthals but surely we can do better than that. It's really poor.
I'm not saying we start behaving like neanderthals but surely we can do better than that. It's really poor.