Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Kane scored on Saturday
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SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
Thats the point, we need others to take responsibility too. With games every 3-4 days if we rely on Kane and Son playing well to win, then it’s too much pressure on them. The rest of the side need to be able to do more so we’re not reliant on them. Otherwise teams can shackle them and we’re impotent.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
They haven’t been shackled though
They have just been poor at the basics
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Exactly and even when not shackled players will have off games, no player scores every single game regardless. I am truly baffled at the idea that so many seem comfortable to rely on Son and Kane for goals and creation and then just lay the fault solely at their door when we don't win for not making the final pass or finishing. If anything their blunt performances in the last two games lend itself to the theory that we need more than one outlet of threats.
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
I would be worried if that was the plan going forward, but conte has his system and its not got all the parts it needs to work yet.
There’s still too many make shift parts, once that's sorted we will be ready for properly challenging.
Look at the difference in us since romero, Bentancur and kulu came in.
We are Tottenham
Kasey Keller
maybe we could expect one of them at least to score though! its like they are Score Shy! Get it in that onion bag..its big enough!
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
And when Dier and Hojgjerg got goals recently it felt like something we’d been working on. Of course if sides know 2 players are a threat they will focus on marshalling them.
The plan is more than if the front three click we win, as shown by the fact we are 3rd in the table with them yet to click - we should actually be pretty happy that we can grind out the sort of results that keep us near the top of the table without our front line playing well, usually we would be way off the pace in this situation.
The front line clicking will potentially take us from a top 4 challenging team to a title challenging team, that's what I'm seeing with performances & results this season so far. The problem i guess is that the games are not very entertaining when the front three are not on it, however we should remember that when they are, it is.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
3rd, eight games into the season. The issue however for us to step up is that we need more than the front three clicking. Our front three are probably the strongest combination in the league when Kulu is in there and that still won't be enough even if they all fire at different times to account for another lull. Where we lack and you compare us against our rivals is that we probably have the weakest set of WBs and CMs who contribute statistically the least. To really push on we need to address that balance and increase he quality
Well yeah, in order to challenge properly we need work in the market and the manager is on record saying work in progress, 2/3 windows etc - however right now without our attack performing well as a unit or individually the team as a whole are contributing enough to keep us at the level we want to be, despite the problems you highlight with WB & CM - again is that not a positive that despite the problems in those positions the setup has meant we can still be effective?
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Well it is but then people need to be realistic on the fact that Son and Kane will have off games, as any player bar Haarland has and not every blunt performance is on them for not notching. Im not saying they are blameless BTW but there is a bigger picture
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Spot on mate.
We created chances and got into good areas, got our front players into the kind of situations where they can (and imo should) be able to do business end thing.
There are issues deeper as well. But that's not the main problem right now.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
We created chances
They wasted them
People claim we aren’t creative but we have shown in the last two games that the midfield can pass to the attack
The wing backs can pass to the attack
The attack is really dysfunctional
When they are playing well we have sonny flying, Kanes guile, kulus control and we now have richys directness. All great attributes, but….
son and Richy can only play left or central
Kane is centre or deeper
Kulu right or centre
The hole on the right now is toxic for the team
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Agreed. Not helped by having a lack of attacking quality from RWB.
I think Richarlison can play on the right. But the current lineup isn't a good fit for him playing there.
Would have liked to see Son and Richarlison switch around at times. Don't think that would have fixed the right sided issues, but Richarlison may have done better than Son on the left.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Possibly.
I’ve watched a lot of Everton as two of my best mates are fans… he never played right there. His game is very reactive and instinctive. When he has time he struggles.
Id go so far to say that we have the least technical Brazilians I’ve ever seen
But it doesn’t make them bad players or unsuited.
richarlison used right, possibly as you suggest could be good and potentially great
AjaxDeSuperYids
Drama queen
Agree with a lot of what has been written here. One thing that really stood out for me was son’s first touch. It was so bad it makes lucas’ first touch resemble cruyff at his peak.
One thing also worth mentioning is conte apparently having next to no faith in our alternative rwb’s and cm’s. He is forced to try someone else out at rwb now but at this rate I do not see him ever starting bissouma or skipp.
How are peh and bentancur going to perform if they are wheeled out every few days until the league cup tie with forest!?
If the alternatives are really struggling to understand the tactics when playing with two cm’s then conte will need to play a game soon with a three of bissouma, skipp and sarr otherwise the starting two will break down and get injured.
One thing also worth mentioning is conte apparently having next to no faith in our alternative rwb’s and cm’s. He is forced to try someone else out at rwb now but at this rate I do not see him ever starting bissouma or skipp.
How are peh and bentancur going to perform if they are wheeled out every few days until the league cup tie with forest!?
If the alternatives are really struggling to understand the tactics when playing with two cm’s then conte will need to play a game soon with a three of bissouma, skipp and sarr otherwise the starting two will break down and get injured.
Dicko
Edgar Davids
It's strange, Have you ever read the articles about Son's dad and his academy. It sounds like a harsh boot camp where the kids work on only the fundamentals all day, every day. They mentioned that the kids are not allowed to play any matches or even practice shooting until the age of 14/15 or something as playing matches is pointless with the perfect touch and technique being nailed down first! Son even tells a story about how he and his brother were made to juggle the ball without stopping for hours on end for example.
Yet... Probably the best part of Sons game is his shooting and his weakest parts are his first touch and his passing!
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
His first touch can be outstanding
But it hasn’t been for a while
Even last year when he was brilliant it wasn’t great
The guys class though and we know will step up soon
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Kandi1977
Terry Dyson
Haaland scores 3 every game by himself, so yes, our 3 should be able to get at least one.
