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***OMT - Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea, Tue May 19th, 8.15pm, Stamford Bridge ***

Everton will be hard to break down but we can beat them

We have two options (three if both Spurs and the Pikey's lose), we can win or draw to secure our PL future.

The Pikey's have to win for any chance to stay up.

I think we will get a point against Everton, who have given away a lot of late goals in their past few games.

Not an ideal situation, but at least our future is in our own hands.
 
I struggle with anyone watching Muani in that first half and thinking that he was making any sort of positive contribution.
He was rubbish but again he went don't have any fit options for the right who actually play there so the alternatives are hail Mary's like maybe playing Souza there or Spence/Porro.

I do get it he was terrible but he's not a RW himself so it was never likely to work. He's a square peg in a round hole because we don't have anyone suitable who is fit and available that the manager trusts to match even what Muani is offering.
 
Honest question, how would you describe who we are? What we’re about? I don’t know what our identity is at the moment.
I'd say the reaction to De Zerbi's first few games tells you all you need to know: everyone felt relieved. I wasn't into Postecoglou at all, but you can tell that despite finishing 17th, he will go down in the club's history as a much more beloved manager than Thomas Frank or Jose Mourinho.

First Spurs game I saw was the FA Cup final against Coventry, back in 1987. I'm not claiming to be an expert on Spurs or even the best fan in the world, but it did shape the way I see the club. I didn't know many of the players, mainly Ardiles and a few others I'd seen at the World Cup the year before, but as the game went on, it was obvious Spurs had the better players. In my memory, they played an expansive game. They were class - and yet they lost.

So, based on what hooked me in, winning isn't really part of the deal when you're a Spurs fan. What's paramount for me is a) playing the game a certain way and b) having outstanding players (not necessarily eleven of them, but a few of them).

I'm telling you anything you if I say that Arsenal fan, for instance, have a completely different ethics. The Wenger era was an anomaly for them. Arteta and George Graham are their heroes.

Do I feel like the club hasn't been itself in a while? Yeah, I agree. It's partly Levy's fault and partly due to the way football has evolved. There's not much room for players like Gascoigne, Hoddle or Ginola nowadays and the few that are left are just too expensive. Someone like Kudus is probably the closest thing we will ever get. In my opinion, we had arguably the best team in the world under Pochettino but we became obsessed with not winning trophies and we lost our way looking for someone who'd finally get us over the line.

De Zerbi, from what I've seen of him, is at least a step in the right direction but there's no doubt in my mind that we have been set back to where we were in the early 90s, assuming we don't go down on Sunday.
 
Two things worry me, the officials and the crowd.

Yeah, it’s the fact that anything can happen in football. That’s the sickening feeling. By all rights we should stay up, we should be capable of getting a point versus Everton, but you just don’t know whether it’s going to go like that on the day. In some ways I agree with the ‘if we can’t get a point versus Everton we deserve relegation’ but on the other hand, we all know that in football you don’t get the results you deserve sometimes and we now have 90 minutes to hope that the ball bounces our way though, otherwise the club is going to go through an absolutely seismic event.
 
Still fuming over not getting that pen yesterday. Why didn't VAR fudging catch it? Ball was clearly in play when the ref whistled, there were two incidents, Cucurella even gets a bloody yellow card for an offense in the box, and we don't get a pen. Just when you think you've seen every idiotic refereeing decision, someone goes to top it, and of course it's against us. We've essentially been robbed of 3 points these past two games. If we go down because of this, fudging hell - those have been some expensive mistakes by refs. It's human to make mistakes, but yet again I can't for the life of me understand how VAR doesn't catch it - it's the whole point of the damned thing. They spent 5 minutes going back and forth for wanting Arse to win the league against West Ham, but don't even bother spending 5 seconds on something as obvious as this. It's ironic as I wrote in another thread that I tend to let things go after a defeat, but this one has got me riled up still.
 
and what do we get from pointing it out? nothing. An apology for messing it all up yet again. There needs to be some accountability with all this because from the outside looking in. It looks utterly corrupt.
 
The thing is..its not just about us going down is it ..more notisible things come to mind and this is after years of winning of nothing this club has served up when we should have been miles better. How come the arse hang on in there at the top when over thr decades everytime we have a chance to head the prem we blow it again and again..consequently why we never win much. Incidently a few weeks ago i was saying this is simply the wordt moment in the clubs history...but how much worse can it get from today!?
 
The thing is..its not just about us going down is it ..more notisible things come to mind and this is after years of winning of nothing this club has served up when we should have been miles better. How come the arse hang on in there at the top when over thr decades everytime we have a chance to head the prem we blow it again and again..consequently why we never win much. Incidently a few weeks ago i was saying this is simply the wordt moment in the clubs history...but how much worse can it get from today!?
ask Leicester
 
He was rubbish but again he went don't have any fit options for the right who actually play there so the alternatives are hail Mary's like maybe playing Souza there or Spence/Porro.

I do get it he was terrible but he's not a RW himself so it was never likely to work. He's a square peg in a round hole because we don't have anyone suitable who is fit and available that the manager trusts to match even what Muani is offering.
I agree, but personally I'd take a Hail Mary option on Sunday - for his own good as much as ours. He so clearly has zero confidence and is not cut out for a league in which players don't get any time to dwell on the ball.

I feel sorry for him really.
 
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I guess many of us saw this on our way out last night. Hope a full recovery is made and agreed, it does put things in some perspective.
 
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