***OMT - Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea, Tue May 19th, 8.15pm, Stamford Bridge ***

[Mikey10]

I just want this season over. too much stress

This. I haven't enjoyed watching us for over two years now, for the very large part. No matter what happens, I just want to see us getting back to winning some games at home and playing in an enjoyable way. My overriding feeling before and during the game last night (as it has been for months) was dread. I can't wait for that to be over. Monday morning will be a relief one way or the other. Should we go down, I think I'll get my head around it pretty quickly.

Chelsea were on a dreadful run of form, hadn’t won at home for months and had just been beaten in a cup final a few days prior. If you judge last night against the historical norm, there’s nothing to be disappointed about. If you judge the game on its own merits, it’s really disappointing.

It was a great chance to put our relegation fears to bed and we blew it which means we’ll start Sunday (and probably spend a good chunk of it) never being more than 2 kicks of a ball from relegation.

And they shuffled their team, resting some of their better players.

 

[DeanoAustin]

This. I haven't enjoyed watching us for over two years now, for the very large part. No matter what happens, I just want to see us getting back to winning some games at home and playing in an enjoyable way. My overriding feeling before and during the game last night (as it has been for months) was dread. I can't wait for that to be over. Monday morning will be a relief one way or the other. Should we go down, I think I'll get my head around it pretty quickly.


And they shuffled their team, resting some of their better players.

I think this is actually a good point. I'm not claiming there are upsides to relegation, there isn't as far as I'm concerned. I also think it'll hurt this club hugely from a financial and reputational perspective.

However, as a fan I think the thought of relegation and race to avoid it will be much worse than the actual event itself if it does come to pass. Regardless of what happens, most of us will still be here for as long as our arses look south and life will go on.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I never said I'm confident But I do think we can get at least a point, like I say Brighton and Leeds aren't any worse than Everton and even then it's far from guaranteed West Ham win. But obviously anything can happen....

West Ham have also been there before. This is new territory for us as a club in almost 50 years and for most of these players in their careers. I really hope the players and the club fully understand the seriousness of this situation now. And I hope they aren’t going into the game half-heartedly thinking they will get a move should we go down. They should be thinking I can’t have a relegation on my CV.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Not feeling the best this morning.

I think it's the situation of being squeezed into a final game...no other options/permutations, no alternative levers to pull.....just turn up Sunday and 2x 90 min games decide our fate.

Maybe its that impending finality I don't deal well with? (5 days of it)
Not trusting us doesn't help. I trust RDZ, but he's not on the field.
Gawd knows what it's like to play in a game like this?
Why do I have the 'funeral march' looping around in my head?

 

[Mikey10]

West Ham have also been there before. This is new territory for us as a club in almost 50 years and for most of these players in their careers. I really hope the players and the club fully understand the seriousness of this situation now. And I hope they aren’t going into the game half-heartedly thinking they will get a move should we go down. They should be thinking I can’t have a relegation on my CV.

Slightly worrying that he even feels he needs to say this below, although I suppose he has to say something...

De Zerbi tells Spurs to play for their ‘dignity’ in final-day relegation battle

Roberto De Zerbi says Tottenham’s final-day relegation showdown against Everton is a more important game than last season’s Europa League final

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

Chelsea were on a dreadful run of form, hadn’t won at home for months and had just been beaten in a cup final a few days prior. If you judge last night against the historical norm, there’s nothing to be disappointed about. If you judge the game on its own merits, it’s really disappointing.

It was a great chance to put our relegation fears to bed and we blew it which means we’ll start Sunday (and probably spend a good chunk of it) never being more than 2 kicks of a ball from relegation.

Yea agreed, I thought it was a really disappointing performance.

The front 3 playing badly you kind of accept, as they’re all we’ve got left, a complete mismatch of an attacking unit that doesn’t compliment each other in any way, but there’s literally no alternative, so we deal with it..

The midfield 3 yesterday were my biggest disappointment, each one of them played well below expectations, RDZ really should have changed that up just after HT, they were having stinkers. Similarly Idogie was having a shocker and the Spence sub really could have been done at HT.

Opportunity missed yesterday. Having said all that the stats were very much in our favour and suggest we should have won it.?

 

[DeanoAustin]

Not feeling the best this morning.

I think it's the situation of being squeezed into a final game...no other options/permutations, no alternative levers to pull.....just turn up Sunday and 2 90 min games decide our fate.

Maybe its that impending finality I don't deal well with? (5 days of it)
Not trusting us doesn't help. I trust RDZ, but he's not on the field.
Gawd knows what it's like to play in a game like this?
Why do I have the 'funeral march' looping around in my head?

Me too. I don't believe in fate but if it does exist, I can see the final narrative being written now. "Spurs bring in a top manager to give them hope which he duly does before they pluck relegation from the jaws of survival in spectacular fashion over the last two games and are sent down by West Ham of all clubs".

The stuff of nightmares. When we get some distance from this season, there will be so much to try and make sense of.

 

[Bishop]

Yea agreed, I thought it was a really disappointing performance.

The front 3 playing badly you kind of accept, as they’re all we’ve got left, a complete mismatch of an attacking unit that doesn’t compliment each other in any way, but there’s literally no alternative, so we deal with it..

The midfield 3 yesterday were my biggest disappointment, each one of them played well below expectations, RDZ really should have changed that up just after HT, they were having stinkers. Similarly Idogie was having a shocker and the Spence sub really could have been done at HT.

Opportunity missed yesterday. Having said all that the stats were very much in our favour and suggest we should have won it.?

With regards to the midfield I don't think he rates (quite fairly) the options that Bergvall and Gray give him. In retrospect there is obviously an argument that changing it would been for the better but if the manager doesn't really rate the other options then he's stuck between a rock and a hard place really. Does he make the change just for the sake of it, or does he stick the starting 11 that he thought would do a better job anyway?

 

[Jurgen the German]

Yea agreed, I thought it was a really disappointing performance.

The front 3 playing badly you kind of accept, as they’re all we’ve got left, a complete mismatch of an attacking unit that doesn’t compliment each other in any way, but there’s literally no alternative, so we deal with it..

The midfield 3 yesterday were my biggest disappointment, each one of them played well below expectations, RDZ really should have changed that up just after HT, they were having stinkers. Similarly Idogie was having a shocker and the Spence sub really could have been done at HT.

Opportunity missed yesterday. Having said all that the stats were very much in our favour and suggest we should have won it.?

Definitely a missed opportunity. The atmosphere felt flat from watching it on tv. Understandable to a degree as they’ve just lost a cup final, but would have thought given the opportunity to put us in trouble would have enhanced the atmosphere. It was only really Palmer and Enzo that turned up for them. I was content with the performance until they scored, but in the back of my mind I knew we’d struggle to score/create anything.

 

[Zavod 311]

Yea agreed, I thought it was a really disappointing performance.

The front 3 playing badly you kind of accept, as they’re all we’ve got left, a complete mismatch of an attacking unit that doesn’t compliment each other in any way, but there’s literally no alternative, so we deal with it..

The midfield 3 yesterday were my biggest disappointment, each one of them played well below expectations, RDZ really should have changed that up just after HT, they were having stinkers. Similarly Idogie was having a shocker and the Spence sub really could have been done at HT.

Opportunity missed yesterday. Having said all that the stats were very much in our favour and suggest we should have won it.?

we really need some technical, energetic, ball carrying midfielders

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

Can anybody really say that they were surprised by this result? I never had any faith that we would even get a point. We had better hope that West Ham get beaten by Leeds, because I have zero faith that these players will get anything against Everton either. They are as weak as tinkle!

 

[clownfoot]

Everton will be hard to break down but we can beat them

 

[Mikey10]

With regards to the midfield I don't think he rates (quite fairly) the options that Bergvall and Gray give him. In retrospect there is obviously an argument that changing it would been for the better but if the manager doesn't really rate the other options then he's stuck between a rock and a hard place really. Does he make the change just for the sake of it, or does he stick the starting 11 that he thought would do a better job anyway?

I struggle with anyone watching Muani in that first half and thinking that he was making any sort of positive contribution.

 

[Yiddo.1882]

What really annoyed me last night was the lack of urgency in the final 15 minutes, we should have been pushing men forward and throwing everything at them like it was the end of a cup final, If they scored on the break so be it, it wouldn’t have mattered in the grand scheme of things.

Now it’s down to the final day and with everything at stake anything could happen, down to ten men early on, injuries, bad refereeing/VAR decisions or a simple slip could all happen, any anxiety from the stands will only make things worse.

On the bright side, I watched Everton Sunderland on Sunday and while they mathematically still have a chance of Europe they looked like a textbook example of a team on the beach.

 

[El Dante]

When there was ten minutes left to play why were t we throwing centre backs forward and having Kinsky come up for corners?

We may as well have lost 3-1 or 4-1 but gone all out at the end, than fall over to a 2-1 loss and not much happening in last stages.

 

[par_18]

We’ve fudged this up haven't we. Watching highlights again....

- Muani is absolute dog brick, get him out now, don't waste another weeks wages.
- Kinsky as please as I am for him lately, and as much as I don't rate Vic, but Vic saves that first goal.
- Second goal is pathetic, Chels bloke looked surprised it was that easy
- Tel's delivery at the end was infuriating, I think he has potential still but got to do better then that

Generally far too many average - below average players, we are where we are for a reason. But we all knew that anyway.

 

[Mr Gogolak]

Me too. I don't believe in fate but if it does exist, I can see the final narrative being written now. "Spurs bring in a top manager to give them hope which he duly does before they pluck relegation from the jaws of survival in spectacular fashion over the last two games and are sent down by West Ham of all clubs".

The stuff of nightmares. When we get some distance from this season, there will be so much to try and make sense of.

Many West Ham fans probably feel the same. Up until Wolves, they had momentum and we were going nowhere. The truth is, there's next to nothing to separate our teams. We're both very poor, for different reasons. Maybe they'll pull it off but, again, we hold all the cards at the moment.

If we go down, we'll have to forget this season as quickly as we can and focus on bouncing straight back up. Relegation would be an incredibly bitter pill to swallow, but it doesn't change who we are, what this club is all about. Man bricky were playing in the third tier not so long ago. Football can be unpredictable.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Oliver on Sunday
Tierney on VAR.

Anthony Taylor over at the Olympic brick hole

 

[scaramanga]

I know its knee jerk reaction time but we have so many championship level players in this squad. I know we have been killed by injuries this season but the fact is this squad has had us in the bottom 4 for 2 seasons now. I would not be betting my house on getting a result against Everton on sunday. We were fortunate to get a draw against Leeds lets hope they give the Spammers a game because it`s going to be tough against Everton.
How is Muani considered a top player? If he starts on sunday we deserve to go down. We have the most unintelligent bunch of footballers I have seen at our club for a long time. Every week I think it will get better but it is the same players making the same mistakes and bad decisions week after week. Until those in charge change our transfer policy and wage structure we will suffer as they put ticket prices up.
I can`t wait for sunday to be over and this terrible season is done

Even if you put back in the injured ones, there's still very little talent.

VdV is class. Gray and Spence have high ceilings but a way to go yet.

Solanke - if he's good enough for Spurs, wtf was he doing at Bournemouth at 26?
Maddison - top players don't come from Leicester at the back end of their careers
Kudus - guess what, if you buy players from the relegation fight they tend to be suited to that end of the table
Gallagher - might have been a good idea 5 years ago

That's about a Harry Kane and a Gareth Bale of transfer spend there.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Many West Ham fans probably feel the same. Up until Wolves, they had momentum and we were going nowhere. The truth is, there's next to nothing to separate our teams. We're both very poor, for different reasons. Maybe they'll pull it off but, again, we hold all the cards at the moment.

If we go down, we'll have to forget this season as quickly as we can and focus on bouncing straight back up. Relegation would be an incredibly bitter pill to swallow, but it doesn't change who we are, what this club is all about. Man bricky were playing in the third tier not so long ago. Football can be unpredictable.

Honest question, how would you describe who we are? What we’re about? I don’t know what our identity is at the moment.