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Morgan Gibbs-White

My thoughts

Emotional: Spurs should treat any deals with Forest in future with a touch of salt if they must happen. The players, management's and agents should be avoided. Knowing Levy, we will not do any deals with them a la Chelsea for a while. We must ensure that we crush Forest when we play them. This appears to have been a move by MGW and his agent to get better monies. Eff them and Forest. Even if Forest get relegated, stay the eff away from MGW.

Non - Emotional: Spurs we move on. We identify other targets and we move. We get a player better than MGW for cheaper and we move.
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Well obviously. But he’s kept his key player. He turned around a ‘Here We Go, medical booked, release clause met’. He’s won this one, no doubt.
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Time will tell if he won. If Forest are scrapping in relegation, would he have won? If Forest are in bottom half of table would he have won? Last season was a one off of some sorts. They are known now. Their tactics are known now. Their players are known.
 
Muttley said:
I think my big conclusion from this saga is that the news landed with the fans today but our club probably moved on 7-10 days ago. This is just the real news catching up with the inside knowledge Spurs had on the outcome. That means we'll be working on another comparative deal somewhere.

Personally, I would have thought that MGW would have had more ambition than to sign a new deal, even though it is in reality just a one year extension with better salary.

So is it all in for Wharton next?
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We don't have the clout for signing Wharton, our only chance is before the big boys are seriously interested. It's pretty disappointing we didn't have the pull to get MGW in tbh, even with CL football he's happy to stay with another club with European football.....
 
afsoc4life said:
Time will tell if he won. If Forest are scrapping in relegation, would he have won? If Forest are in bottom half of table would he have won? Last season was a one off of some sorts. They are known now. Their tactics are known now. Their players are known.
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He won this one mate. He's kept a very good player against the clutches of a club in the CL and who had a medical ready because they thought they had their man. We can clutch at straws and say they might be rubbish this season, but he won this battle keeping one of their star performers for sure....
 
harr1984 said:
Agree. But do you think it would have been the same result had a Chelsea or Arsenal been in for him?
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yes because they have a better setup football wise (for long term stability) and are able to afford higher wages.
i am confident that things will change with vinai venkat but it will take time but ultimately we need new owners like Clearlake if we want to compete with the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea or Emirates Marketing Project.
 
metalgear said:
yes because they have a better setup football wise (for long term stability) and are able to afford higher wages.
i am confident that things will change with vinai venkat but it will take time but ultimately we need new owners like Clearlake if we want to compete with the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea or Emirates Marketing Project.
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So then it's not (just) about his desire for CL football then....
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Hope so! Not sure what all of the decent journos with Spurs connections saying ‘we still expect this to get done’ were talking about in that case, but yeah I hope we have a plan to move on from this. A very strange saga.
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Same ones who said there was a release clause but also didn’t know about the deal until it was happening…
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
Yeah, as I said the way Maranakis operates is not necessarily to my taste. But it’s undeniable he has won a round here.

A club that were in the Championship not too long ago has successfully resisted a ‘release clause met, medical booked, deal basically done’ story and retained their best player. That does not happen every other week. It’s a massive win for him. Roles reversed I’d be delighted. And I think it’s ok to acknowledge it.

The only way this remotely looks ok from a Spurs perspective is if we were never that interested. And threw in a cheeky bid because we thought it would be a good deal, and have other targets to quickly go after.

That throws up a whole load of other questions of are we actually targeting the right level of player to seriously move the club upwards. But at least it would mean we hadn’t been completely and utterly outplayed by Forest and wouldn’t mean we wasted two weeks on a deal for a player that was never that bothered about joining us in the first place.
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I don't know why it needs to result in such dramatic inward reflection. There's likely dozens of players we approach every year who for, one reason or another, don't end up signing. This time it happened to play out in the press a bit. Unless it comes out that Spurs actually did do something illegal/immoral or whatever, I don't think there's much to see here.
 
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