Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Surely it was all about Poch trying to find that winning formulae without having changed much in the way of personel?
even Fergie used to change coached periodically if he hadn’t had a big churn of players
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Jose Mourinho - SACKED
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even Fergie used to change coached periodically if he hadn’t had a big churn of players
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
I honestly don't know.
I take everything any manager says in public with a pinch of salt, and poch more than any other.
He deliberately in my opinion said things that were open to interpretation.
Was the be brave about not spending or spending?
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
No idea
But he deffo played games
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Either way, what the fcuk is Ndombele’s problem. He was apparently the best midfielder in the french league the season before we got him. He looks out his depth.
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
I think we agree on pretty much all points. For me, Levy took Poch for granted. He did not listen to the warnings and they came true. Poch could've been stronger/more of an arsehole perhaps, but truth be told, he is not that guy right now and I think emotion prevented him from leaving in the summer.
Levy is who he is, there is a ton of good but also some bad. I believe it hurt him deeply to sack Poch. I wish he'd paid heed earlier. I also hope he has learnt his lessons but I remain unconvinced. Mourinho needs backing or he will be offski.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Stinking attitude for me
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
I don’t doubt for one second that sacking hurt both men massively. I’ve heard more than enough neutral sources talk about how well they got in and how unusual it was
But I also believe it was right at the time (as we would have had to sack most of the team otherwise which isn’t practical)
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
What was the sacking statement all about? As I remember it Levy was so complimentary about poch, same with Jose at his first press conference.
I wonder if poch was in a rush and Levy knew we couldn't risk the investment needed just yet.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
He was badly out of position..... Had no need to be playing a one man pressing game onto Moutinho who was in his own half. Traore spotted the space and just drifted into it. Davies couldn't come and take him as Doherty was pushing up (with Bergwijn having not tracked his run). If you think Winks should've been pressing Moutinho in that phase of play then you and I have a very different understanding of central midfield positioning.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
The way Poch had us playing needed two full backs who could complete ridiculous numbers of sprints during games. They had to provide all of our width and also still defend the opponents wide forwards.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Time will tell but I doubt there will be another PL manager in the next decade who is able to take a team to 4 straight top 4 finishes with the 6th biggest wage budget and 10th'ish biggest net spend in the league.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I always thought it was about spending, but it was open to interpretation.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
I think a player has to press the man with the ball and no one else moved
Literally no one
I’ve watched it back and everyone stands still
He has plenty of cover behind him (8 players) and they had 5 in our half
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Great athletes, walker especially, not great footballers IMHO.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
It’s just the modern game now
We have two very average and not that fast FBs and it kills us so often
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Your central midfield player (and indeed the player playing deepest in midfield for us on Sunday) should not be pressing an opposition player in a reasonably wide position in their own half, especially if the team are not playing a high pressing game.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
They didn't need to be great footballers in that Poch team. Just have incredible fitness, pace, bravery and tenacity. Other teams didn't have fullbacks that could do that and after selling Walker and Rose's decline we realised how hard it was to replace that in a Poch team.
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
I agree, but it's difficult know be really sure how poch wanted to go. One minute it was don't spend, we're good enough, next minute it was sell and buy others.
Was some of it to keep on levys good side, playing the press or what.
In the end I think he confused himself.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
You seen the photos
At that point Lo Celso was the one playing deepest. They switched constantly during the game
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
I would have to watch the whole game again to see if they had switched. At that point that goal was created it looks like neither of them were playing deep (which is inexplicable). We instead have a chasm of space between our midfield and defense. That spot that Traore takes up is the exact spot that a Wanyama type would’ve automatically filled in when playing for us a couple of seasons ago. Winks charging out towards that ball showed a complete lack of awareness of what was behind him. Watch as Mourinho gets that ball, he has both Jotta and Traore goal side of our midfield, open, both with at least 15 yards of space to run into before coming up against our defence. Is there another team in the PL who leave such huge swathes of space in central attacking areas as we do?
Do you really think that Winks was in the right position there Bedford, pressing Moutinho in Wolves’ half with us 2-1 up? It is Sunday league kids football type of play.