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Frank Give him time or get rid?

Thomas Frank give him time or get rid?

  • Give him until the summer

  • Give him until Christmas

  • Get rid now


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It was meant to be one statement as an either or, as you’re right we don’t know exactly his confidence. But my main point is that when things have gone against him (and I do think he’s had bad luck) he doesn’t seem like he has the personality to turn it around. It does feel very Moyes at United.

These are my perceptions but I've always felt Frank wants to just take the data and experience from the bad result and then keep working at things on the training ground. He then believes over time these moments will dissipate and we'll have a better permanence about us. At least I did for most of his tenure. He is perhaps showing signs of being worn down by the experience in his body language and interviews.

I reckon he is dreading the Dortmund game. He has nowhere to manoeuvre at this stage with the injury crisis especially if the 50:50s go against him on the recent knocks we took.
 
These are my perceptions but I've always felt Frank wants to just take the data and experience from the bad result and then keep working at things on the training ground. He then believes over time these moments will dissipate and we'll have a better permanence about us. At least I did for most of his tenure. He is perhaps showing signs of being worn down by the experience in his body language and interviews.

I reckon he is dreading the Dortmund game. He has nowhere to manoeuvre at this stage with the injury crisis especially if the 50:50s go against him on the recent knocks we took.

I thought he looked completely wrung out at the end yesterday.

There was a moment just after the whistle as he shook hands with the officials; Vicario was still berating them about the goal from the corner and he said something to Frank, presumably to try to get him to join in. TF just shrugged and walked off. He looked broken.
 
I thought he looked completely wrung out at the end yesterday.

There was a moment just after the whistle as he shook hands with the officials; Vicario was still berating them about the goal from the corner and he said something to Frank, presumably to try to get him to join in. TF just shrugged and walked off. He looked broken.
he probably knows he’s out of his depth (as well as knowing that it was just standard Vicario brick goalkeeping).
 
I was Ange In for longer than i should have been as at least he had a way he wanted to play even if the execution was poor.

Frank looks clueless. There’s no obvious plan, he’s look broken and is going downhill fast.

He’s out of his depth, and as the job has proven to be too big for him I’m afraid we need to pull the trigger.
 
These are my perceptions but I've always felt Frank wants to just take the data and experience from the bad result and then keep working at things on the training ground. He then believes over time these moments will dissipate and we'll have a better permanence about us. At least I did for most of his tenure. He is perhaps showing signs of being worn down by the experience in his body language and interviews.

I reckon he is dreading the Dortmund game. He has nowhere to manoeuvre at this stage with the injury crisis especially if the 50:50s go against him on the recent knocks we took.

I think that’s fair. And I do think if he’d gotten some results in recent weeks, the idea of being the balanced, sage, wise person who keeps on the level in the chaos of the premier league would be seen as a really good thing. I also think, if he had the time to really establish his culture so that his way was ‘seen’ to be the right way by players that were really bought into it, it would also work.

I think he hasn’t had the time to establish his culture, and have the players bought into it. And so I think when things happen, the players are probably looking for someone who judges situations differently (the Vicario example here, or the DJed / VDV thing after Chelsea). They are perhaps looking for a leader who gets them, but also who they understand. And I think they are perhaps reading balance right now as not enough, whether it’s not angry enough at the right moments, not inspirational enough at the right moments, I don’t know. But because I actually like Frank, I try and veer away from describing this situation as one where he is just bad at his job. I genuinely think it is that he is very different from what came before, and the players were bought into that style.

It could have so closely swung the other way for him. We beat United, beat Saudi Sportswashing Machine away without a bricky VAR call, beat Sunderland at home, then we’re probably going into some of these other recent games with more confidence, we probably beat West Ham. I really felt I could see the green shoots. But it hasn’t happened, and now he probably won’t get the time.
 
You have to feel sorry for Frank. A lot of people wondered how Brentford would fare without him and he would fare without Brentford's excellent scouting system.

It just takes one quick look at the table to know the answer. It will take him years to rebuild his reputation, assuming he ever does.
 
We have 9 points from our last 10 games. This seems way more worrying than last year.

We picked up 5 points from 10 games during the corresponding period of last season though… whilst the first choice CBs were out during that time at least we had Son, Solanke, Maddison, Kulusevski, Sarr, Bissouma, Udogie and Johnson available…

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We picked up 5 points from 10 games during the corresponding period of last season though… whilst the first choice CBs were out during that time at least we had Son, Solanke, Maddison, Kulusevski, Sarr, Bissouma, Udogie and Johnson available…

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Also our first choice goalkeeper out right?

Also what did our benches look like for those games?

Also did we have European games to play with the narrowest squad imaginable?
 
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