Frank Give him time or get rid?

[Finney Is Back]

Sonny & Johnson
Kulu, Madders, Solanke not played a minute this season
That is 80+ goals and assists we've lost

No wonder we've been struggling

We sold the two on the first line and knew the first two on the second line were out for pretty much the whole season before the season started.

We should've found a much better way to play without those players (whether that was through making signings or coaching).

 

[Raziel]

Sonny & Johnson
Kulu, Madders, Solanke not played a minute this season
That is 80+ goals and assists we've lost

No wonder we've been struggling

Issue is, it's not like we have been drawing a bunch of games 0-0 or losing 1-0 (we concede more than a goal a game)

Would those players help? of course but it really feels like it would be nothing more than relying solely on individual quality to bail out a lack of approach.

We sold the two on the first line and knew the first two on the second line were out for pretty much the whole season before the season started.

We should've found a much better way to play without those players (whether that was through making signings or coaching).

Exactly, and while people brick on Richi, Tel, RKM, Kudus, Xavi, it's not like we give any of them 5 or 6 real chances a match that they miss/fudge up, that we are creating this massive xG that lack of quality to finish is the issue.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Somewhat agree

- We want someone who will defend the club and be happy to have aspirations (Ange was good at it)
- We don't want someone who will make us feel they are doing us a favor (Jose/Conte)
- For me the definition of front foot is more, we should aim to own possession (not concede possession without reason), we should have structure (it should look like we are a coached team) and the system should allow one or two of our maverick type players the ability to cause chaos (Deki, Maddison, Kudus, Xavi, maybe even Bergvall and Tel in this squad come to mind)

But, and this may come across the wrong way, the club needs to understand what having season tickets is like, that commitment of time (for me 6-8 hours minimum), the costs of not just the ticket, but additional matchday costs, to do that for 2-3 weeks a month, to watch your team play brick and get rolled over more often that a decent performance is unacceptable, it creates the apathy or toxicity, it drags the club down. All of that to say, both the manager and the squad should be good enough to make our stadium somewhere we win, and somewhere the opposition don't want to come.

And I'm sure some who have known me on this board for a long time, may look at that list of criteria and laugh, say it fits one person (@thfcsteff ?)

Really good post and I agree with pretty much all of it. I’m 41 now which is relatively young but I’ve already started to evaluate things I like doing vs things I don’t like doing. I’m much more selective with my free time because I realise it’s finite. I only live around 1.5 hours from the ground door to door but like you, I don’t want to make the effort to get to and from the game to not enjoy the experience. That walk to Seven Sisters station feels much longer after a lacklustre defeat.