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DTA said:
Ok the West Bank is not part of Israel then. So what are Israeli citizens “settlers” doing there? What is the IDF doing there? Why does the IDF protect those “settlers” even when they are committing crimes against the West Banks Arab inhabitants, forcibly removing them from their land to build new settlements.
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The IDF are there because it was agreed during the Oslo Accords that they would share security to various extents in various zones.
 
DTA said:
And the rest of the questions about the settlers?
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Expanding a safe buffer between Israel's towns/cities and people who wish them harm.

Not my preferred solution of course. I think everyone in the area would be safer and better off if afforded the protections and benefits of Israeli statehood.
 
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scaramanga said:
Expanding a safe buffer between Israel's towns/cities and people who wish them harm.

Not my preferred solution of course. I think everyone in the area would be safer and better off if afforded the protections and benefits of Israeli statehood.
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just get Hamas out of the fudging place and technically terrorism would cease to exist in Palestine. I’m certain the people of Palestine are sick and tired of conflict caused by the Islamists.
 
scaramanga said:
True, but many of those same people who (rightly) called Tommy Robinson racist also accuse Nigel Farage of the same, despite him refusing to have anything to do with Robinson because he's a racist.
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Of course because people from his past are making claims about his views on Hitler (being positive) which throws shadows on his character. As a politician I think we are right to test how robust his "I'm not a racist" is, just as much as we do with Reeves claims her LinkedIn is legit....
 
Grays_1890 said:
Of course because people from his past are making claims about his views on Hitler (being positive) which throws shadows on his character. As a politician I think we are right to test how robust his "I'm not a racist" is, just as much as we do with Reeves claims her LinkedIn is legit....
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Of course testing it is important, as with any other politician.

There are as many from Farage's old school claiming the opposite BTW. The most damaging tales have been told by some leftist arty type for whom extra publicity and solid leftist credentials will do him no harm.

I usually find it best to judge people on their actions. I've never been much of a fan of Farage but I remain utterly impressed by his refusal to take a large donation from Musk as it would have meant associating with Robinson. I think that kind of action says a lot of positive things about his character.
 
Gazza said:
just get Hamas out of the fudging place and technically terrorism would cease to exist in Palestine. I’m certain the people of Palestine are sick and tired of conflict caused by the Islamists.
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Getting rid of Hamas is the first step towards a lasting peace in that area.

That was precisely what Israel were trying to do when the rest of the Western world collectively lost their balls and started screaming for peace.
 
scaramanga said:
True, but many of those same people who (rightly) called Tommy Robinson racist also accuse Nigel Farage of the same, despite him refusing to have anything to do with Robinson because he's a racist.
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Er, probably because Nigel is a politician with big ambitions...you cut your cloth accordingly, sans honesty and morality. He's only serving himself.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Er, probably because Nigel is a politician with big ambitions...you cut your cloth accordingly, sans honesty and morality. He's only serving himself.
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That association would have come with a donation that would dwarf anything any other party could earn.

Any party, no matter their politics, taking that donation would have formed the next government.
 
scaramanga said:
That association would have come with a donation that would dwarf anything any other party could earn.

Any party, no matter their politics, taking that donation would have formed the next government.
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Thought foreign money donations were a no no?. Yes there's loopholes but iirc closing them is on the agenda.

But regardless, Musk is too volatile an ally, there's only so many times you can feed your brain thru the meat grinder.
Farage is probably not far off winning anyway...why jeopardise that with unsavoury/unpalatable associations?
 
Finney Is Back said:
Yes they are. Their primary base is Gaza but they also operate cells in the West Bank. PIJ are another terrorist group that are based in the West Bank.
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The people in the West Bank who have lived their for centuries have had people from another country come along with weapons and have removed them from their homes. And now live there as then beleive GHod promised them it 3000 years ago.

They aren't Hamas. They are people. Who live there. Under a govt not called Hamas.
 
scaramanga said:
Of course testing it is important, as with any other politician.

There are as many from Farage's old school claiming the opposite BTW. The most damaging tales have been told by some leftist arty type for whom extra publicity and solid leftist credentials will do him no harm.

I usually find it best to judge people on their actions. I've never been much of a fan of Farage but I remain utterly impressed by his refusal to take a large donation from Musk as it would have meant associating with Robinson. I think that kind of action says a lot of positive things about his character.
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Of course, but additionally no serious politician could endorse TR or his views, maybe those abroad with no claims to our political system, but it would be party suicide here.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Of course because people from his past are making claims about his views on Hitler (being positive) which throws shadows on his character. As a politician I think we are right to test how robust his "I'm not a racist" is, just as much as we do with Reeves claims her LinkedIn is legit....
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Wasn't one of the first things he did was to burn a swastika and say that he didn't like nazis?
 
LutonSpurs said:
The people in the West Bank who have lived their for centuries have had people from another country come along with weapons and have removed them from their homes. And now live there as then beleive GHod promised them it 3000 years ago.

They aren't Hamas. They are people. Who live there. Under a govt not called Hamas.
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Oh…. Are you one of those people that think Hamas is a political party?
 
Grays_1890 said:
Did he? I never heard that and just googled it and can't see it, could have done, not saying he didn't but cant see it, so if you can post cool
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It was when the edl first announced themselves. It was on the bbc news. Said they had nothing to do with nazis. Tommy was in a mask but it was him.
 
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