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Europa League 2013-14: Dnipro (UKR), Benfica (POR)/PAOK (GRE)

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firefly said:
Sevilla will indeed be the ones who will take Malaga's place in the Europa League. Real Betis qualified for the competition regardless of this scramble.
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If Malaga's appeal had been successful they'd have taken the Spanish spot starting at the play-off stage. Real Betis would've had to start in an earlier qualifying round.

I believe Rayo Vallecano are awaiting an appeal decision.
 
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First qualifying round draw**

Víkingur (FRO) v FC Inter Turku (FIN)
VMFD Žalgiris (LTU) v Saint Patrick's Athletic FC (IRL)
AUK Broughton FC (WAL) v FK Ventspils (LVA)
JK Trans Narva (EST) v Gefle IF (SWE)
KR Reykjavík (ISL) v Glentoran FC (NIR)
FC Chikhura Sachkhere (GEO) v FC Vaduz (LIE)
FC Milsami Orhei (MDA) v F91 Dudelange (LUX)
FK Metalurg Skopje (MKD) v Qarabağ FK (AZE)
FK Mladost Podgorica (MNE) v Videoton FC (HUN)
FC Flora Tallinn (EST) v FK Kukësi (ALB)
FK Teteks (MKD) v FC Pyunik (ARM)
KS Teuta (ALB) v FC Dacia Chişinău (MDA)
AC Libertas (SMR) v FK Sarajevo (BIH)
Sliema Wanderers FC (MLT) v FC Khazar Lankaran (AZE)
PFC Levski Sofia (BUL) v FC Irtysh Pavlodar (KAZ)
Hibernians FC (MLT) v FK Vojvodina (SRB)
FC Astana (KAZ) v N3* (BUL)
UE Santa Coloma (AND) v HŠK Zrinjski Mostar (BIH)
NK Domžale (SVN) v FC Astra Ploieşti (ROU)
FK Rudar Pljevlja (MNE) v FC Mika (ARM)
FC Santa Coloma (AND) v Breidablik (ISL)
Drogheda United FC (IRL) v Malmö FF (SWE)
IFK Mariehamn (FIN) v FC İnter Bakı (AZE)
ÍF Fuglafjørdur (FRO) v Linfield FC (NIR)
Prestatyn Town FC (WAL) v SK Liepājas Metalurgs (LVA)
NK Celje (SVN) v Tromsø IL (NOR)
FC Tiraspol (MDA) v Skonto FC (LVA)
Crusaders FC (NIR) v Rosenborg BK (NOR)
ÍBV (ISL) v HB Tórshavn (FRO)
AS Jeunesse Esch (LUX) v TPS Turku (FIN)
Bala Town FC (WAL) v FC Levadia Tallinn (EST)
FK Kruoja (LTU) v FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR)
SP La Fiorita (SMR) v Valletta FC (MLT)
KF Laçi (ALB) v FC Differdange 03 (LUX)
FC Gandzasar Kapan (ARM) v FC Aktobe (KAZ)
FK Čelik Nikšić (MNE) v Budapest Honvéd FC (HUN)
FC Torpedo Kutaisi (GEO) v MŠK Žilina (SVK)
FK Turnovo (MKD) v FK Sūduva (LTU)

Second qualifying round draw**

BK Häcken (SWE) v AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
AC Libertas (SMR) / FK Sarajevo (BIH) v FC Flora Tallinn (EST) / FK Kukësi (ALB)
FC Thun (SUI) v FC Chikhura Sachkhere (GEO) / FC Vaduz (LIE)
Xanthi FC (GRE) v ÍF Fuglafjørdur (FRO) / Linfield FC (NIR)
IL Hødd (NOR) v FC Gandzasar Kapan (ARM) / FC Aktobe (KAZ)
FC Dila Gori (GEO) v Aalborg BK (DEN)
Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR) v Sliema Wanderers FC (MLT) / FC Khazar Lankaran (AZE)
HNK Hajduk Split (CRO) v FK Turnovo (MKD) / FK Sūduva (LTU)
AUK Broughton FC (WAL) / FK Ventspils (LVA) v AS Jeunesse Esch (LUX) / TPS Turku (FIN)
NK Domžale (SVN) / FC Astra Ploieşti (ROU) v AC Omonia (CYP)
FC Tiraspol (MDA) / Skonto FC (LVA) v FC Slovan Liberec (CZE)
CS Pandurii Târgu Jiu (ROU) v Bala Town FC (WAL) / FC Levadia Tallinn (EST)
WKS Śląsk Wrocław (POL) v FK Rudar Pljevlja (MNE) / FC Mika (ARM)
Drogheda United FC (IRL) / Malmö FF (SWE) v Hibernian FC (SCO)
FC Jagodina (SRB) v FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
Strømsgodset IF (NOR) v Debreceni VSC (HUN)
FC Petrolul Ploieşti (ROU) v Víkingur (FRO) / FC Inter Turku (FIN)
HNK Rijeka (CRO) v Prestatyn Town FC (WAL) / SK Liepājas Metalurgs (LVA)
VMFD Žalgiris (LTU) / Saint Patrick's Athletic FC (IRL) v FK Teteks (MKD) / FC Pyunik (ARM)
PFC Beroe Stara Zagora (BUL) v Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
FC Honka Espoo (FIN) v KKS Lech Poznań (POL)
FK Crvena zvezda (SRB) v ÍBV (ISL) / HB Tórshavn (FRO)
FC Shakhtyor Soligorsk (BLR) v FC Milsami Orhei (MDA) / F91 Dudelange (LUX)
Hibernians FC (MLT) / FK Vojvodina (SRB) v FK Čelik Nikšić (MNE) / Budapest Honvéd FC (HUN)
NK Olimpija Ljubljana (SVN) v FC Torpedo Kutaisi (GEO) / MŠK Žilina (SVK)
IFK Mariehamn (FIN) / FC İnter Bakı (AZE) v NK Celje (SVN) / Tromsø IL (NOR)
FC Chornomorets Odesa (UKR) v KS Teuta (ALB) / FC Dacia Chişinău (MDA)
IFK Göteborg (SWE) v FK AS Trenčín (SVK)
FK Kruoja (LTU) / FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR) v NK Lokomotiva Zagreb (CRO)
KR (ISL) / Glentoran FC (NIR) v R. Standard de Liège (BEL)
UE Santa Coloma (AND) / HŠK Zrinjski Mostar (BIH) v FC Astana (KAZ) / N3* (BUL)
FK Metalurg Skopje (MKD) / Qarabağ FK (AZE) v GKS Piast Gliwice (POL)
Crusaders FC (NIR) / Rosenborg BK (NOR) v Saint Johnstone FC (SCO)
Trabzonspor AŞ (TUR) v Derry City FC (IRL)
SP La Fiorita (SMR) / Valletta FC (MLT) v FC Minsk (BLR)
FK Senica (SVK) v FK Mladost Podgorica (MNE) / Videoton FC (HUN)
Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP) v JK Trans Narva (EST) / Gefle IF (SWE)
SK Sturm Graz (AUT) v FC Santa Coloma (AND) / Breidablik (ISL)
PFC Levski Sofia (BUL) / FC Irtysh Pavlodar (KAZ) v NK Široki Brijeg (BIH)
KF Laçi (ALB) / FC Differdange 03 (LUX) v FC Utrecht (NED)

*Club to be confirmed
**Dates and home/away leg order are subject to approval

All 38 first qualifying round ties are played on 4 and 11 July, with the reward for the winners a place in the second qualifying round on 18 and 25 July.
 
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Champions League Qualifying Round draws below. Most of the winners from the 2nd Qualifying Round will end up in the Europa League at some point.

First qualifying round draw (2/3 and 9/10 July)*
FC Shirak (ARM)
FC Lusitans (AND)
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SP Tre Penne (SMR)
EB/Streymur (FRO)

Second qualifying round draw (16/17 and 23/24 July)*
Neftçi PFK (AZE)
FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
FC Sheriff (MDA)
Birkirkara FC (MLT)
Sligo Rovers FC (IRL)
IF Elfsborg (SWE)
HJK Helsinki (FIN)
FK Ekranas (LTU)
The New Saints FC (WAL)
Celtic FC (SCO)
GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
Győri ETO FC (HUN)
FC BATE Borisov (BLR)
FC Shirak (ARM) / SP Tre Penne (SMR)
ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)
FC Dinamo Tbilisi (GEO)
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KS Skënderbeu (ALB)
FK Vardar (MKD)
FK Željezničar (BIH)
FK Sutjeska (MNE)
NK Maribor (SVN)
Molde FK (NOR)
FC Daugava Daugavpils (LVA)
JK Nõmme Kalju (EST)
FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL)
Legia Warszawa (POL)
Cliftonville FC (NIR)
CS Fola Esch (LUX)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
FC Shakhter Karagandy (KAZ)
FK Partizan (SRB)
PFC Ludogorets Razgrad (BUL)
FC Lusitans (AND) / EB/Streymur (FRO)

* Results subject to pending disciplinary proceedings and final confirmation from UEFA
 
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Great draw for Prestatyn Town v Leipajas Metalurgs. A trip to Latvia. One for Chich IIRC
 
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P.D. said:
Who are the 10 highest teams by co-efficient in it this year?
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Valencia
Tottenham Hotspur
Dynamo Kiev
Sporting Braga
Stuttgart
Bordeaux
Rubin Kazan
Sevilla
Standard Liège
Udinese

A few other teams with high coefficients will enter after being knocked out of the Champions League qualification.
 
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Id fancy us to beat all those teams over 2 legs to be honest. We should really be aiming to get to semis minimum.
 
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P.D. said:
Id fancy us to beat all those teams over 2 legs to be honest. We should really be aiming to get to semis minimum.
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Cue a re-starting of teh age old debate of whether we should field our first 11 in the Europa or prioritise the league and/or how much we should rotate!!

For what its worth, I'm of the view that your players cant play every Thurs and Sat/Sun but dont see why someone cant play in some Thurs games plus the league games at the weekend. As such I think we should always play say 3 to 5 our of our genuinely first choice players each Thurs and then fill in with other decent squad players like:

- Freidel
- Caulker, Dawson, Naughton and/or Rose etc at the back
- Siggy, Holtby and/or Carroll in midfield (assuing Sandro, Paulinho and Dembele are first choice midfield)
- Dempsey, Townsend and/or Defoe/Ade up top (depending on who we sign)

Throw in a small number of our real first 11 to that lot and you have a very good team and certainly good enough for group stages and first 1 or 2 knock out rounds
 
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Armchair Expert said:
On a separate note, Pasching from Austria must be the smallest club in the draw. Not even top tier in Austrian football, made the cup final, knocking out Rapid and Salzburg on the way. Not even sure they will be allowed to stage their home games in their own stadium.
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3rd Division team according to Wikipedia!

And...................they used to have a player called Ice Cream!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osa_Guobadia
 
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AdamB said:
Cue a re-starting of teh age old debate of whether we should field our first 11 in the Europa or prioritise the league and/or how much we should rotate!!

For what its worth, I'm of the view that your players cant play every Thurs and Sat/Sun but dont see why someone cant play in some Thurs games plus the league games at the weekend. As such I think we should always play say 3 to 5 our of our genuinely first choice players each Thurs and then fill in with other decent squad players like:

- Freidel
- Caulker, Dawson, Naughton and/or Rose etc at the back
- Siggy, Holtby and/or Carroll in midfield (assuing Sandro, Paulinho and Dembele are first choice midfield)
- Dempsey, Townsend and/or Defoe/Ade up top (depending on who we sign)

Throw in a small number of our real first 11 to that lot and you have a very good team and certainly good enough for group stages and first 1 or 2 knock out rounds
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I wonder how teams in the CL can play on a Wed/Sat yet we cant play on a Thurs/Sun ?
 
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Wriggly said:
I wonder how teams in the CL can play on a Wed/Sat yet we cant play on a Thurs/Sun ?
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Most teams rotate players; difference is that if you're Man U, you can rest RvP for a league game and not worry about dropping points because you have Chicarito or Rooney or someone else decent to come in

Ourselves and Arse are at the sort of level where we have the 'burden' of teh extra workload from European games but not the absolute quality that teams like Man C, Man U and cheatski have
 
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Wriggly said:
I wonder how teams in the CL can play on a Wed/Sat yet we cant play on a Thurs/Sun ?
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Wednesday - Saturday is the worst case scenario for the CL teams and is only likely to happen less than half of their games. Half the CL games are on a Tuesday for starters, and some of their following league games is on a Sunday.

Seems fairly accepted that in those cases it's more of a problem that a tough PL game the weekend before the CL game can impact their performance in the CL although there's probably still an effect of having twice as many games in a run of games compared to your opponents.

Either way the European hangover effect is fairly widely accepted. A quick article here that was the first I could find, I think there are more comprehensive articles out there though:

http://www.kickoff.co.uk/200/champions-league-hangover/

Manchester United have been beaten 15 times in their last 119 Premier League games, with eight of these defeats coming in the 31 fixtures played in the days after a Champions League encounter. This means that they have been beaten just seven times in their other 88 clashes, suggesting that there may just be something in this notion of a European hangover.
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UEFA has suspended Fenerbahçe from European competition on a 2+1 year ban for alleged involvement in match-fixing.
 
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Fenebahce kicked out of Champs League. Does this now go to a Turkish team or highest team in UEFA coefficient??
 
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Johnny Ray said:
Fenebahce kicked out of Champs League. Does this now go to a Turkish team or highest team in UEFA coefficient??
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Next Turkish team I believe. Besiktas also banned and out of the Europa League.
 
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Key to any long term success is Bale. We win the Europa League and finish 5th, then I can't see us keeping hold of him. Combined with the brutal truth that we played pretty much our strongest team in last year's competition and were brick, I'd be quite happy to fudge this tinpot shell of what used to be a great completion right off and concentrate on the league.
 
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braineclipse said:
Wednesday - Saturday is the worst case scenario for the CL teams and is only likely to happen less than half of their games. Half the CL games are on a Tuesday for starters, and some of their following league games is on a Sunday.

Seems fairly accepted that in those cases it's more of a problem that a tough PL game the weekend before the CL game can impact their performance in the CL although there's probably still an effect of having twice as many games in a run of games compared to your opponents.

Either way the European hangover effect is fairly widely accepted. A quick article here that was the first I could find, I think there are more comprehensive articles out there though:

http://www.kickoff.co.uk/200/champions-league-hangover/
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Yeah but then on the flipside they play Sat/Sun then on a Tuesday whereas we have 2 more days rest before our game.

Fact is you play 2 games in a week regardless of how they fit and other teams seem to manage it, whats the point of holding players back as if we were still in the CL we would still face the same issue and I bet then people would say first 11 every time as it's the CL which clearly indicates whether or not people want to admit it that it's only because it's the Europa League that they would even consider playing a weakened team.
 
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