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Finney Is Back said:
My definition of obtuse is to display willful ignorance.

My ignorance is not willful, If I missed your point then it is genuinely because I found it impossible to understand what point it was that you were making with your initial response.

I was, and still am, completely confused as to why you feel I started a "silly game" (that you then wanted to continue). I've still have absolutely no idea why you think me posting an opinion that signing players who have already proven they can cope with PL football is less of a gamble is me playing a "silly game". It is genuinely baffling. Typically when I disagree with somebodies opinion I just tell them that I disagree with their opinion.
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You missed the point like Timo Werner. Repeatedly. Despite having open goals to understand it (even someone else was saying the same)

The 'silly game' (softened to futile:))...was an obvious (to me) attempt to show that whatever opinion you had someone could make that valid opinion equally look 'silly' via citing endless great examples of players that have worked and ones that haven't on all sides of PL and foreign signings debate...so it's impossible to be conclusive that one is 'less risky'.

The ignorance comes from the endless other replies where I have tried my very best to explain what I was getting at. (Gave it another go above:))

It feels like you didn't like the tone? Sorry for that.
Whatever you do never call in to TalkSport :)
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
You missed the point like Timo Werner. Repeatedly. Despite having open goals to understand it (even someone else was saying the same)

The 'silly game' (softened to futile:))...was an obvious (to me) attempt to show that whatever opinion you had someone could make that valid opinion equally look 'silly' via citing endless great examples of players that have worked and ones that haven't on all sides of PL and foreign signings debate...so it's impossible to be conclusive that one is 'less risky'.

The ignorance comes from the endless other replies where I have tried my very best to explain what I was getting at. (Gave it another go above:))

It feels like you didn't like the tone? Sorry for that.
Whatever you do never call in to TalkSport :)
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I can't even listen to Talksport let alone call into it.

I'm not convinced that any of the opinions posted on here can ever be proved to be conclusive, they're just opinions after all.

But I'm starting to even bore myself now so will leave it at that and drop it.
 
Lilbaz said:
Apart from the fact we are the most indebted club in the world.
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The debt has been structured into tranches of low interest loans some not repayable until 2051, Levy had a degree in economics, Charrington was CEO with Citi Group Private Bank for 25 years or so, pretty sure these people know more about multi million pound finances than most.

Also I think Barca are more in debt than we are as of 2025.

PS Man U have a lot of debt , at least most of ours if for a shiny cash generating stadium unlike their run down pile.

 
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For anyone interested in our finances, the last half hour or so of this week’s Dr Tottenham pod is a good listen. It features the bloke behind the Levynomics platform.

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SirPercyHotspur said:
The debt has been structured into tranches of low interest loans some not repayable until 2051, Levy had a degree in economics, Charrington was CEO with Citi Group Private Bank for 25 years or so, pretty sure these people know more about multi million pound finances than most.

Also I think Barca are more in debt than we are as of 2025.

PS Man U have a lot of debt , at least most of ours if for a shiny cash generating stadium unlike their run down pile.

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Costing us over £30m a year in interest and growing rather than being reduced.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Massively interesting how this conversation has evolved over the years, I took a look back and many views have changed/goalposts moved now. Fascinating reading some of it
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Has it really? I went back to the first page and I see much the same arguments and from some of the very same people.
 
Bishop said:
Has it really? I went back to the first page and I see much the same arguments and from some of the very same people.
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Yeh, massively, I flicked through maybe a dozen pages and people have moved on from some arguments to others, absolutely there are people staunch in the same views, but plenty have moved on to fresh moans or moved what success looks like to them etc.

We all change over time, so its not a dig, just like I say, makes interesting viewing
 
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Gazza Dazzla said:
Wonder what was happening around that time that meant we couldn’t do that?
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You can always sell to buy. Eriksen, Dele and Toby (who Poch wanted to sell) were all players at the height of their appeal and players whobwe could have gotten decent money for and used that to reinvest and reinvigorate the squad.

Just sitting on the squad and letting it with and stagnant in front of our eyes was the worst possible option and another reason people like myself don't rate Levy's football acumen.
 
Bishop said:
You can always sell to buy. Eriksen, Dele and Toby (who Poch wanted to sell) were all players at the height of their appeal and players whobwe could have gotten decent money for and used that to reinvest and reinvigorate the squad.

Just sitting on the squad and letting it with and stagnant in front of our eyes was the worst possible option and another reason people like myself don't rate Levy's football acumen.
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Some of this is hindsight and history revisited though. Personally I would not have wanted rid of Eriksen at his height or Dele, would have been madness based on their peak, why would you other than on the basis of knowing what came after the event? Both were fine fine players who would have been near impossible to replace as the height on their appeal
 
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