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Let's look at what @robp135 is waffling on about now. Someone called someone a crook. He interpreted it as illegal. He then went about he's never heard it called illegal before. And now he is saying it was implied
 
It's frustrating how the club have spent so many years building the infrastructure to propel us into the very elite, yet are unwilling to take proper advantage of that opportunity.
 
harr1984 said:
Yes that's what I'm saying? We want a Semenyo and apparently offered above what we have in the past to get him, but if a City or whoever come in for these players we still can't attract them so it's tricky. Even if the owners do genuinely want to be more ambitious, we are still going to fail most of the time in getting the really good players - especially with where we find ourselves domestically....
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You scout them earlier, you make bolder decisions. That's where my criticisms of Levy always comes from, he was a coward, safety first, take no risk.

Take Saudi Sportswashing Machine as an example they took the risk of spending £63m on Isak, a player who had tons of potential and was looking like he might be the next one up but he wasn't the confirmed finished article, but they scouted and evaluated him and decided he was a gamble worth taking. They then ended up with a striker who was later valued at almost doubled that value. So it's eminently possible, you just have to have a exceptional scouting and procurement division (we clearly don't.).

Someone is no doubt going to mention the likes of Tel or Gray and sure but really neither fit that profile. Gray is pure potential at a young age and a very good pickup from us but he's not a player we could expect to be ready to go in in ediatly and improve us. Tel is meh, he was a completely different trajectory to a player like Isak, or Semenyo etc etc.
 
Bishop said:
You scout them earlier, you make bolder decisions. That's where my criticisms of Levy always comes from, he was a coward, safety first, take no risk.

Take Saudi Sportswashing Machine as an example they took the risk of spending £63m on Isak, a player who had tons of potential and was looking like he might be the next one up but he wasn't the confirmed finished article, but they scouted and evaluated him and decided he was a gamble worth taking. They then ended up with a striker who was later valued at almost doubled that value. So it's eminently possible, you just have to have a exceptional scouting and procurement division (we clearly don't.).

Someone is no doubt going to mention the likes of Tel or Gray and sure but really neither fit that profile. Gray is pure potential at a young age and a very good pickup from us but he's not a player we could expect to be ready to go in in ediatly and improve us. Tel is meh, he was a completely different trajectory to a player like Isak, or Semenyo etc etc.
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That's fair, at least more recently it seems we have gone for really young ones - I still believe the likes of Tel/Bergvall/Gray will be great in a couple of years but for the here and now absolutely. I would say in the past we did with Son, Berbatov, Modric at least but can't think of any in recent seasons....
 
Bishop said:
You scout them earlier, you make bolder decisions. That's where my criticisms of Levy always comes from, he was a coward, safety first, take no risk.

Take Saudi Sportswashing Machine as an example they took the risk of spending £63m on Isak, a player who had tons of potential and was looking like he might be the next one up but he wasn't the confirmed finished article, but they scouted and evaluated him and decided he was a gamble worth taking. They then ended up with a striker who was later valued at almost doubled that value. So it's eminently possible, you just have to have a exceptional scouting and procurement division (we clearly don't.).

Someone is no doubt going to mention the likes of Tel or Gray and sure but really neither fit that profile. Gray is pure potential at a young age and a very good pickup from us but he's not a player we could expect to be ready to go in in ediatly and improve us. Tel is meh, he was a completely different trajectory to a player like Isak, or Semenyo etc etc.
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Two different categories? Ready made, but elite, but still big potential (like Isak) and younger players with big potential but will need time to be ready made (Gray, Bergvall etc).

We have imo made signings in that first category. Romero, VdV, Porro, Udogie. Perhaps we tried to do something similar with Johnson? Kudus fit in that category for you? Xavi?

It's imo where we should be shopping come the summer, at least in part. Assuming we stay up. Absolutely yes on needing excellent scouting and analysis for that.
 
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