Cristian Romero

[Raziel]

I think his agent is touting him around no doubt, but realistically who is going to sign him? Quality player but VAR is the end of players like Romero. No prem team would take him because of his reputation.

Signed a new contract last season and I’d be surprised if there was a buyout clause as Levy would’ve been involved in negotiations. He’s not going to go cheaply so limits which clubs around Europe can sign him. We could be in the position where he wants out, club have agreed he can leave but there are no offers on the table. Would be some instagram post he makes should that happen

He can manage it if he wants, he doesn't get carded anywhere as much for Argentina, and IIRC in one of the Ange season's he turned it down.

Do agree it's his agent showing around, but the club must feel there is a chance for a number we will accept since we are buying Senesi & JVH, and will be evaluating Vuskovic.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

The thing with Joelinton is he's rarely rash he makes strong challenges that sit on the border and yes he is given that benefit of the doubt. Romero makes rash challenges and that's why he gets judged the way he is (often unfairly imo)

The problem is how do you measure this? The majority of decisions have a large degree of subjectivity and context to them. Even on this board we don't all agree on whether something was a pen or a foul etc even if it's in our favour. So what would these referee decisions be judged against? It's not really possible to determine a specific foul objectively because there will always be subtle differences between any specific challenge.

There is nothing subtle about Joelinton.

 

[Mikey10]

I think his agent is touting him around no doubt, but realistically who is going to sign him? Quality player but VAR is the end of players like Romero. No prem team would take him because of his reputation.

Signed a new contract last season and I’d be surprised if there was a buyout clause as Levy would’ve been involved in negotiations. He’s not going to go cheaply so limits which clubs around Europe can sign him. We could be in the position where he wants out, club have agreed he can leave but there are no offers on the table. Would be some instagram post he makes should that happen

I think we'll have to take a realtively cut price deal to offload; maybe £35-40 million, which I think we will accept if it's offered.

 

[Muttley]

The data is already visible. PGMOL publish stats about how many VAR calls are deemed right and wrong. Even then, as @Bishop says, there is subjectivity with some decisions. You can see that when the 5 man panel reviews the decisions - it's often 3-2 or 4-1.

The pitch side analyst? Ah stop. The refs already explain some of the decisions and, to be honest, it's a bit of a charade. On TV, the commentators are always made aware of why a decision has been made by VAR.

How would the club make "objective public assessments"? They have a vested interest.

I find your posts interesting generally and hate playing the man rather than the ball but your obsession with Howard Webb and PGMOL is a bit much IMO.

You ever worked in a job where the fox is watching the henhouse with their KPIs. Go look closely at those PGMOL measurements and you'll see exactly that. This is one of the biggest root cause of where we find ourselves. They've made VAR the denominator and measured the refs decisions the numerator. I bet they come in at 99%+. We need the laws to be the denominator. That is the only thing referees should be measured against. We can all come up with stupid metrics in our jobs to make ourselves look good.

I'm deadly serious about Spurs hiring an analyst that has a focus on the the laws and the refereeing. I'm a little tongue in cheek about the YouTube stuff but I would absolutely have our analysts pitch side just for the optics of us watching Webb like a hawk. We need to fight the system on this one and if it means mic'ing them up and going online then so be it. It would be a load of fun watching them squirm as we called them out on every incident.

I think most people know I see refereeing as governance and that belongs with our FA. The other big root cause is that Sky and the PL run the referee show. Take our last game of the season. What happens in the last quarter of the game if their is an Everton penalty shout? We all know WWE rules would apply and whatever decision made it the most entertaining for the viewing public would define the decision. I would place my mortgage on it being a penalty to Everton just to keep the PL relegation battle alive. This is where we find ourselves.