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Coronavirus
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Stop all testing except in hospital and social care settings.
There no longer any point the rest of society doing it, unless they get seriously ill and doctors need to determine a treatment pathway
Not a problem if they're working on COVID wards.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
It is just a cold now accept for the macarons who won't have a jab.
Diamond Lights
Gudni Bergsson
still super fascinating reading about it.
Great read here on how it's effectively the fastest spreading virus known in human history (a few caveats but it's explained in the article). For those too lazy/TL;DR:
To demonstrate omicron’s infectious power, Bhattacharyya has done a back-of-the-envelope calculation to imagine what a race between omicron and measles, another of the world’s most-contagious viruses, would look like. One person with measles infects 15 others on average if none are vaccinated, compared to the six people infected by omicron. But the key lies in the so-called “generation time”: i.e. the number of days that elapse between when the first person is infectious and when those they infect also become infectious. With measles, that takes about 12 days. In the case of omicron, this only takes four to five days. “One case of measles would cause 15 cases within 12 days. One case of omicron would give rise to another six at four days, 36 cases at eight days and 216 after 12 days,” explained Bhattacharyya.
Great read here on how it's effectively the fastest spreading virus known in human history (a few caveats but it's explained in the article). For those too lazy/TL;DR:
To demonstrate omicron’s infectious power, Bhattacharyya has done a back-of-the-envelope calculation to imagine what a race between omicron and measles, another of the world’s most-contagious viruses, would look like. One person with measles infects 15 others on average if none are vaccinated, compared to the six people infected by omicron. But the key lies in the so-called “generation time”: i.e. the number of days that elapse between when the first person is infectious and when those they infect also become infectious. With measles, that takes about 12 days. In the case of omicron, this only takes four to five days. “One case of measles would cause 15 cases within 12 days. One case of omicron would give rise to another six at four days, 36 cases at eight days and 216 after 12 days,” explained Bhattacharyya.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Diamond Lights
Gudni Bergsson
Also it's well worth going back in time and reading the first few pages of this thread from early 2020. Wow. What we thought, what we now know, just incredible.
Diamond Lights
Gudni Bergsson
this guy sounds like a knobhead
Diamond Lights
Gudni Bergsson
is it not common sense to just have lateral flows for entry of schools and workplaces over next few months?
Just call in sick if you're to ill to go in and stop testing.
Only test for going into hospitals or those who work/visit vulnerable people.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The same for colds, flu, depression and syphilis? Or just except that 2-3% of the time everyone feels a bit below par because of something.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
New summary thread from the FT, who have by some distance have become the most rigourous/data-informed media outlet. Interesting observation that it's not particularly Omicron causing the NHS problems, it's dealing with the non-Covid treatment backlog from the previous 2 years (so general care, not ICU). England's immunity wall is also very impressive
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Ah all those patients who couldn't get to see a GP as the GP's were more interested in phone calls and jabbing people for £25 a person instead, shock horror !!
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Vaccinating everyone on the planet against Covid-19 regularly is not sustainable or affordable, a UK vaccine scientist has said.
Prof Sir Andrew Pollard, who helped develop the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, said the most at risk should be identified and prioritised instead.
He said the vaccine rollout had gone "extremely well" in the UK but other parts of the world were falling behind.
Booster jabs have been offered to all eligible adults in the UK
There has been a surge of Omicron cases in the UK, with 157,758 cases reported across England and Scotland on Monday. Data for Wales and Northern Ireland is to be reported after the recent long weekend.
But Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman said the government "doesn't see any data to suggest that further restrictions would be the right approach" in England.
He said the public should be "in no doubt" it would be a difficult time for the NHS but there were mitigations in place to help them through a "challenging winter".
A number of hospital trusts have declared critical incidents, with coronavirus cases leading to staff shortages and increased pressure on services.
Plan B measures currently in place - including mask wearing in some indoor settings and guidance to work from home where possible - are "the correct course", the spokesman added.
The prime minister will host a Downing Street news conference later. He will be joined by chief medical officer for England Prof Sir Chris Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance.
Prof Pollard told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "It really is not affordable, sustainable or probably even needed to vaccinate everyone on the planet every four to six months.
"We haven't even managed to vaccinate everyone in Africa with one dose so we're certainly not going to get to a point where fourth doses for everyone is manageable."
There is not "full certainty" on whether another booster might be needed in the UK, added Prof Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group.
He said the UK would be in a good position if variants continued to lead to milder disease, as has been the case with Omicron.
"We may well need to have boosters for the vulnerable in the population but I think it's highly unlikely that we'll have programmes going forwards regularly of boosting everyone over the age of 12," he added.
Prof Pollard said those who would need further boosters were likely to be older adults or those with health conditions.
"There will be new variants after Omicron," he added. "We don't yet know how they're going to behave - and that may completely change the view on what the right thing to do is."
Prof Pollard is chair of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), which advises the government on vaccines, but he has no involvement in decision-making on Covid-19 vaccinations in the UK.
Prof Sir Andrew Pollard, who helped develop the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, said the most at risk should be identified and prioritised instead.
He said the vaccine rollout had gone "extremely well" in the UK but other parts of the world were falling behind.
Booster jabs have been offered to all eligible adults in the UK
There has been a surge of Omicron cases in the UK, with 157,758 cases reported across England and Scotland on Monday. Data for Wales and Northern Ireland is to be reported after the recent long weekend.
But Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman said the government "doesn't see any data to suggest that further restrictions would be the right approach" in England.
He said the public should be "in no doubt" it would be a difficult time for the NHS but there were mitigations in place to help them through a "challenging winter".
A number of hospital trusts have declared critical incidents, with coronavirus cases leading to staff shortages and increased pressure on services.
Plan B measures currently in place - including mask wearing in some indoor settings and guidance to work from home where possible - are "the correct course", the spokesman added.
The prime minister will host a Downing Street news conference later. He will be joined by chief medical officer for England Prof Sir Chris Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance.
Prof Pollard told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "It really is not affordable, sustainable or probably even needed to vaccinate everyone on the planet every four to six months.
"We haven't even managed to vaccinate everyone in Africa with one dose so we're certainly not going to get to a point where fourth doses for everyone is manageable."
There is not "full certainty" on whether another booster might be needed in the UK, added Prof Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group.
He said the UK would be in a good position if variants continued to lead to milder disease, as has been the case with Omicron.
"We may well need to have boosters for the vulnerable in the population but I think it's highly unlikely that we'll have programmes going forwards regularly of boosting everyone over the age of 12," he added.
Prof Pollard said those who would need further boosters were likely to be older adults or those with health conditions.
"There will be new variants after Omicron," he added. "We don't yet know how they're going to behave - and that may completely change the view on what the right thing to do is."
Prof Pollard is chair of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), which advises the government on vaccines, but he has no involvement in decision-making on Covid-19 vaccinations in the UK.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Cases backlog reported today so of course this is the main headline (not the backlog) on MSM
They obviously don't mention the deaths or hospitalizations, why on earth would they do that
They obviously don't mention the deaths or hospitalizations, why on earth would they do that
Not a backlog (for cases at least). If you look under date specimen was taken it's a big spike the last couple of days.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
BJ's presser not even on BBC 1 so can't be anything serious
Ok, Plan B carries on no restrictions needed
Ok, Plan B carries on no restrictions needed
Falling. Omicron has replaced it for the most part. Can't find the graphic but the number of cases of delta has fallen as omicron has risen.