Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
I just had a thought. Those smart arses who are self employed, who constantly and chronically under quote their income are going to be kicking themselves.
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markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
I mentioned this the other day, my Step Daughters Dad who earns probably £60k minimum a year, tells the CMO he only earns £12k a year hence he pays £18 a week child maintenance
Shouldn't laugh at others but hahahahahahahaha that's karma you clam
Mikey10
Pat van den Hauwe
There weren’t any caveats - or at least the government didn’t know if there were. They simply ignored the email offering to explore the purchase of 25,000 ventilators, for which Gove apologised this morning and said he would “investigate.”
Even The Telegraph is asking some pretty serious questions today.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Not sure it’s always “under quoting” my wife owns her own business, has a low salary and tops up with dividends when she’s had a good year, she still pays tax on the dividends. The current scheme would pay out based on her salary only though.
She’s not gaming the system, that’s the direction that is encouraged by HMRC’s policies.
I'm not convinced I believe the email excuse. For the sake of argument let's assume it is true.
In which case, some junior staffer whose job it is to read brick like that is going to get sacked - nobody else to blame in this country there.
The EU will also have to shoulder some blame for dealing with something so important via a single email - nobody does that.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
If they dont have a rainy day account then they deserve everything that is coming there way. I know so many flash fcuks that always had to have the latest car or big holiday but never saved or invested.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
The emails is just the flimflam excuse they came up with. I would hazard a guess someone is making wedge off this decision.
Or that the country's better off without.
Knowing how the EU works, it would probably cost a lot more that way. The cost would be based on relative GDP (with no rebate) and the ventilators would be distributed to the poorest countries first.
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
That's a slightly different scenario though I think - it doesn't sound as if your wife is technically self-employed.
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
Was going to make the same point - surely something so vital should've been followed up from the originator's end?
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Actually the point of the scheme was to leverage the buying power of the bloc, so I'd say they'll be cheaper. Other countries were doing both, via the scheme and on their own steam.
Do you genuinely believe that if we wanted 100 ventilators at £100 each, our bill from the EU would have been £10k?
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Ah, good to see Brexit paranoia is still alive and kicking.
That's not paranoia, the EU has always been open (at least for the last 20 years) about its intentions to redistribute from the earners to the workshy.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
Not forgetting the company directors who take the basic PAYE and are paid the rest in dividends. It's the basic PAYE only.
This includes me btw (but I'm not that bothered)
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
yeh abiding by the rules so I’m low risk. Boris by nature of his job is at risk as is his family and again his role is more important to all this than mine.
Same, but the £2.5k cap is pretty low so it makes no difference at all.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
I’d normally be in the bracket but as I work for the government currently they made me got through PAYE so I’m lucky
however my other business which I own 20% of is totally screwed now (we borrow money to build houses but can’t finish the build to sell them and pay that back due to this). I’ll lose about £70k but my business partner would lose his house and everything. That’s scary brick and it’s not through anyone’s fault but he gets nothing in the government offer despite paying about £200k in corporation tax and investing every penny he has earned in his business (he pays him self around £40k in PAYE and divi so isn’t rich by anyone’s standards). We employ approximately 15 people at any point too so that’s a lot of jobs gone... but I think what the government has done is fair as we all know the directors who make real money would be claiming even if they had £££ in the bank
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
The government have an external consultancy advising them on buying if the equipment they need. I know the consultancy and regular share their office
It’s the slowest possible way they could work IMO at a time of crisis and shows the behemoth that it’s the governments commercial model
It’s scarily slow and just not fit for these situations
If they had asked Tesco to buy them 25000 ventilators they would be here now and ready (I’ve worked for both Tesco and Gov and I hate Tesco now for the way they treated my team when I left)
It all makes me feel and think their still planning on the herd approach just doing it without saying it...
It’s the slowest possible way they could work IMO at a time of crisis and shows the behemoth that it’s the governments commercial model
It’s scarily slow and just not fit for these situations
If they had asked Tesco to buy them 25000 ventilators they would be here now and ready (I’ve worked for both Tesco and Gov and I hate Tesco now for the way they treated my team when I left)
It all makes me feel and think their still planning on the herd approach just doing it without saying it...