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Brennan Johnson
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If nobody is willing to pay that plus match his wages?
This is an interesting debate
- Spurs fans/media seem obsessed with us selling players earlier and/or for profit, not sure why we should care.
- Johnson gets double figures almost every year of his career, proven he can be out top scorer at this level and won us a cup
- Alternatively, he's a limited player, the system has to be built for him, not the other way around.
The only way this strengthens the side is if the money used is the difference between a player we couldn't afford before, if we go out and buy a ~60M player, we didn't need the Johnson money for that. If we go get a 90M player .. fair play.
- Spurs fans/media seem obsessed with us selling players earlier and/or for profit, not sure why we should care.
- Johnson gets double figures almost every year of his career, proven he can be out top scorer at this level and won us a cup
- Alternatively, he's a limited player, the system has to be built for him, not the other way around.
The only way this strengthens the side is if the money used is the difference between a player we couldn't afford before, if we go out and buy a ~60M player, we didn't need the Johnson money for that. If we go get a 90M player .. fair play.
Bishop
Christian Ziege
A positive from this move is that we've decided to move him on relatively quickly and even at a loss.
Far too many times in the past, a player has worked out and we've dug our heels in and demanded an unrealistic fee for a player and added up either getting nothing or paid a couple years of wages and agreed to the lower fee on the end anyway.
So I do see this as a big positive and maybe an indicator that we are finally going to work as a cohesive and intelligent football organisation.
Bishop
Christian Ziege
Do we actually want to sell the player or have him sit on our bench sucking up wages. The attitude you suggest is one we've followed way too many times in the past and to our long term detriment.
Johnson isn't worth 40m-45m to anyone who has actually watched him play over an extended period. Sometimes you need to sell a player for what you can actually get for them versus what you think you can get.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
He's no good if he doesnt have space to run into. Winning the ball high therefore doesnt really suit him
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Who would pay that for a winger who cant run with the ball, cant run at defenders, and cant cross?
I dont think as a proud Welshman he'd appreciate being called English either!
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Its the squad place too. If we buy a player for £8m and he's a better option, that's a win. In particular its a non-CT place freed for CL
As a serious question for you (as you don't rate Johnson)
- If we sell Johnson (35M won't be a loss on books after 2 years) and buy a 60M player (something that is in our financial range without needing to sell Johnson), why is that a good thing?
My view is we could probably sell Johnson, Davies, Biss, Sarr, maybe loan Tel & Kota and our first 11 is probably mostly unaffected, sure it frees up bench, but for who? and how does that help us?
This deal for me remains 100% dependant on incoming before we judge it.
See my post above, for a fan, the value of selling Johnson is zero (we don't get cheaper tickets/merch), so celebrating a sale (is fudging weird) makes no sense unless we have that better option locked.
And I'm concerned the first deal we are hearing for a squad that badly needs help is a sale.
It's a good thing because we're quickly moving on a player deemed surplus to requirements rather than hanging on to him as we would have done in the past. We've made a decision and acted on it. Hopefully this signals a change in attitude towards similar players.
Why concerned? We can only have a squad of 25. To buy we'd need to ceate space. So we need to sell. Regardless of what funds we have.
Because right now if Kudus plays brick or gets injured, who's out wide right? if we are trying to close out a game, are sitting deep and want to give the opposition a counter to think about, who has pace in behind and can finish?
From a pure team perspective, the squad is weaker without him (until we have a replacement)
It's funny, Spurs fans always argued against Levy as he ran it as a business, every argument about selling Johnson early and for profit seems way more business than football.
MartyFunkhouser
Willie Hall
Nailed it
Eriktheviking
Allan Nielsen
A needed sale in my view. kudus and Kulu for the right wing. You need to set up to play BJ or is useful when the game is stretched and has space to run into. As such, a bit limited for a full squad place. Hope it all goes well for him, not a bad player or his fault.
Kulu isn't even on grass yet
Bishop
Christian Ziege
I'm for selling any player that I don't believe adds value to the squad, they are taking wages that are not being used productively. Also, I don't really understand your angle, every penny counts. £1 spent here is £1 that can't be spent over there, our budget is finite. The fee plus the release of the wages is a net benefit to us financially. The second part of the question is whether we now leverage the money recouped and saved into improving the squad. A different question, and not one that necessarily has a positive answer.
Bishop
Christian Ziege
But Johnson isn't capable of doing these things so why would we want to keep him for a scenario that is unlikely to occur?
and that is my concern.