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Ballon d'Or
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Muttley
Vedran Corluka
I'm always a cynic of the Ballon D'Or as it doesn't really represent football holistically. They clearly have this massive bias towards attacking players. In 20 years we've seen 1 defender (Cannavaro) and 2 midfielders (Modric and Rodri) win the award. The rest have been forwards. Every year you look at the nominees and see massive gaps of the defensive minded players who have had stunning years. I think they have a bias against our PL with only Rodri bucking the trend.
Very happy for Harry though. He's had a long old innings and waited until he was 33 for something like this to happen. Really pleased for him.
El Dante
Cecil Poynton
But the defenders of this era are not nowhere near where the likes of Cannavaro, Maldini, Nesta, Thuram and the King were. I think the best players in the World right now ARE attacking players . But I do understand your point.
In the list I think Olise should have been a lot higher. But otherwise it’s fair.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Poor man's SPOTY. No Balding, no prize
Muttley
Vedran Corluka
But just think of guys like Neuer, Courtois, Van Dijk, Puyol, Godin, Silva etc not even making the shortlists. Think about a 35 year old Messi or Ronaldo not being as good as they were when they were 28 but still winning it. It's been a massivly biased award for a very long time.
A guy like Hakimi will never win it. Back to back CL wins and league titles. Has been a different level at RB for a very long time. No chance.
El Dante
Cecil Poynton
It’s about what he does as an individual. It’s not a team award so back to back UCL wins counts but not as loudly as his individual performances.
And it’s for that reason that the attacking bias likely exists. Goals, assists, general attacking play can be a lot more memorable than tackles and interceptions.
Maybe there needs to be emphasis on a Balon D’Or established Team alongside the individual award. With voting metrics displayed. That may better give the defenders rightful praise.
Kandi1977
Ralph Coates
Not really interested in these awards, as they're totally irrelevant, or at least has been, as a couple of players have had a free ride to it for years. Harry getting it, is probably the most deserved one in the history of this award.
Huge congrats! Nice of him to also highlight his time with Spurs.
Huge congrats! Nice of him to also highlight his time with Spurs.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Andy Thompson
I agree but goals are the currency of the game that's why scorers and creators get the big money, who apart from Baleforce wanted to be a defender when they first started playing?
Lemonade Money
Barry Daines
Harry Kane would still be the best defender.
johnaliola
Edgar Davids
Has made my day. Get in there Harry.
Lemonade Money
Barry Daines
Cant believe Bale never won it. That would have been 3 players we've developed in recent history.
Robbo
Steffen Freund
A friend of mine reminded me about that time we lost 1-2 at home to ten men PAOK in the EL, with two future Ballon d'or winners in the starting eleven and Gareth Bale on the bench:
www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/match/2007372--tottenham-vs-paok/lineups/
For nine minutes they were all on the pitch.
www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/match/2007372--tottenham-vs-paok/lineups/
For nine minutes they were all on the pitch.
Kandi1977
Ralph Coates
So? What's the relevance?
Robbo
Steffen Freund
The previous post; otherwise just a peculiar coincidence involving Spurs and two of the recent winners of the award that this thread is dedicated to.
Clarky
Michael Brown
£500K a week, 3 Year Contract and Membership to Beaverbrook, Wentworth, Loch Lomond, Wisley and Queenwood thrown in. *Assuming he isn't a member of them all already. Oh and a big fudge off gold statue to go alongside Billy Nich.Cheeky bid?
Harry Kane: Bayern Munich and England striker wins Ballon d'Or after record season
Harry Kane becomes the first English player to win the Ballon d'Or since Michael Owen in 2001 after being crowned the world's best player at a ceremony in London.www.bbc.co.uk
paxtonwolf
Martin Peters
Made up for the lad. 2 fingers up to all those opposition fans and the media who gave him stick for not having actually won nothing anything at the time.
And where's that pirate now? "Who's Harry Kane?" Well mate, he's the Best Player in the World now you mug
I would love to hope now that he has the utlimate allocade sat on the shelf, he comes home to break the PL Goals Record with us. I know he probably would like to add the CL to his collection, but even at Bayern I just dont see him winning it, PSG look to good again.
He looks set for another Bundesliga medal this season, but would love it he came back to Spurs in Summer (although January 2027 would be far better...)
I never thought Bale would come back for that one last season, so never say never
And where's that pirate now? "Who's Harry Kane?" Well mate, he's the Best Player in the World now you mug
I would love to hope now that he has the utlimate allocade sat on the shelf, he comes home to break the PL Goals Record with us. I know he probably would like to add the CL to his collection, but even at Bayern I just dont see him winning it, PSG look to good again.
He looks set for another Bundesliga medal this season, but would love it he came back to Spurs in Summer (although January 2027 would be far better...)
I never thought Bale would come back for that one last season, so never say never
Chrissivad
Pedro Mendes
Is Harry Kane now the best one season wonder ever?
